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Date:      Tue, 29 May 2012 07:02:11 +0800
From:      Martin Wilke <miwi@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, python@freebsd.org, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov <cvs-src@yandex.ru>, zope@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected
Message-ID:  <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAKBkRUxb-o1a0CH1eO7Sp31ZMmfEuOe6SuJK0p5Y7CB=cqOfMg@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> <CAKBkRUxb-o1a0CH1eO7Sp31ZMmfEuOe6SuJK0p5Y7CB=cqOfMg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800
Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
> <cvs-src@yandex.ru> wrote:
> > Hi, Martin,
> >
> > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree,
> >> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there
> >> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this
> >> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it
> >> from the ports tree.
> >
> > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know
> > FreeBSD committer that using old zope.
>=20
> I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about
> setting DEPRECATED thing.  I agree to set it as an official
> announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the
> final time of postpone.

Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this
time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine,
the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!!

>=20
> > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version:
> >
> > net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org)

I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can
live without python 24

> > www/zope =A0 (estartu@augusta.de)
> > www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de)
>=20
> miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if
> skreuzer (CC'd)
> know this plan.
>=20
> www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about
> net/honeyd? can it work with newer Python?  I looked at the project
> site, it seems moved to somewhere else.
>=20
> > And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version:
> >
> > www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org)
>=20
> I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we?
>=20
> > I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both
> > EOL. But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or
> > two. We have such a tradition.
>=20
> I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer
> google-appengine
> can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new
> system, and
> users have python25 apps deployed are not affected.  Is there anybody
> still using
> develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine?

+1 for py25 removal.. since is the same situation..

>=20
> >> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by
> >> lwshu@ and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope
> >> ports.
> >>
> >> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the
> >> bsd.python.mk. Now I would like to know what you guys think if I
> >> were to remove www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to
> >> merge www/zope213 to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and
> >> www/zope213 completely. What do you think about this?
> >>
> >> Thanks Martin
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff
> >
> >
> >
> > Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may
> > look like this:
> >
> > +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} =3D=3D "2.13"
> > +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope2=
13
> > =A0.else
>=20
> You are the Zope expert!

Will fix the patch

>=20
> > I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time.
>=20
> We do, too.  Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13?  BTW,
> what's the status of
> BlueBream?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Li-Wen
>=20



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