Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:32:13 -0700 From: <dteske@FreeBSD.org> To: "'Boris'" <borisbsd@gmail.com>, "'Alejandro Imass'" <aimass@yabarana.com> Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail? Message-ID: <033901cf603f$55a1ffc0$00e5ff40$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CAJYdwgUq=2s1sL=1EdEQYs=3Gv2ikrSP34kpvtQH%2BfNSedPkHA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAFS4T6apJ30_WPrV3-azuwr5LHFE8htEk5a_xqe7DRZ7Wy5XqQ@mail.gmail.com> <53580129.5010909@ssimicro.com> <CAHieY7SViGaVXXK2CxQEuiTUZMA4EfrUVn_BdB-PHvoJiUjzaA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJYdwgUq=2s1sL=1EdEQYs=3Gv2ikrSP34kpvtQH%2BfNSedPkHA@mail.gmail.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Boris [mailto:borisbsd@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:02 PM > To: Alejandro Imass > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail? > > Hi Alejandro, > > Can you move a 'live' jail from server to server? > I have never tried but some people like the vMotion option from VMware > and for having tried it, it's quite impressive in action. > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/ http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/about-vps.html NB: See first bullet point on the about page. -- Devin > For the rest, I used jails a long long time ago, I guess Marketing was not > behind jails the same way it has been behind VMware products although, to > be fair, GSX and ESX have be out there for ages...there has been a lot more > press since ESXi4.something and 5 > > Boris > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Alejandro Imass > <aimass@yabarana.com>wrote: > > > > On 14-04-22 3:47 PM, edflecko . wrote: > > > > > > I'm really interested in the comparison of using a FBSD jail rather > > > than VMWare in the context of virtualization. > > > > > > At my business, we heavily use VMWare - you might say we consider > > ourselves > > > a VMWare "shop". 99% of our servers are virtualized. > > > > > > I've heard that it's possible to run hundreds, if not thousands, of > > > services in FBSD jails on a given host server because of the sharing > > > of resources that all of your jails take advantage of. If I > > > understand that correctly, that's one of the HUGE advantages of > > > running services in jails as opposed to creating VM after VM after > > > VM - each VM eats up disk space > > on > > > the SAN as well as memory resources, etc. Additionally, the jailed > > service > > > is far better from a security perspective? > > > > > > Having said all of that, I'm curious to hear from some of you who > > > may be doing just this - are you running a FBSD server with some of > > > your mission critical services (Apache, Bind, DHCP, etc., etc.) > > > within jails and how > > do > > > you like it versus running hundreds of VMs and VMWare? > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > I have used FBSD Jails for many years running dozens and dozens of > > jails per severs. I use EZJail which simplifies the set-up and further > > reduces the disk space usage as all jails derive from a single base > > jail, and greatly simplifies upgrades and many other jail related > > tasks. EZJail is an awesome addition to Jails and you will feel almost > > like in VMWare. For example, I routinely archive and move jails around > > my servers! (so long as you keep all your servers up to date) So with > > EZJail it's almost like using VMWare, if not better. No GUI though ;-) > > > > > What type of services CAN be run from within a jail? > > > > > > > Basically anything. AFAIK > > > > Best, > > > > Alejandro Imass > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
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