From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 02:26:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB8A16A5F0 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9E643D46 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H2QPue019845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:25 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9H2QPr9013187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: <45343F57.3010904@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:31 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <80f4f2b20610161441h304ccfc4haa6a20f72a08e018@mail.gmail.com> <45341E87.4080300@u.washington.edu> <80f4f2b20610161811h24a94ecy48683c554bba78ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610161811h24a94ecy48683c554bba78ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.16.185942 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:26:26 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit >> off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who >> are afraid of forgetting make commands.. >> -Garrett > > I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that > was my only option. Ok, fair enough I suppose. > And speaking of sht, in regards to Damiens last comment - I honestly > don't believe that it's just binary drivers that keeps Linux with > better driver support - there are more OSS drivers there too. The > reason? It's fecal - linux only; cares that it works, they care much > less about documentation and quality. It's enticing to the a lot of > the developers and made the community larger - "Hey I can spend my > time coding how I want instead of following standards and wasting time > with documentation!!". Don't get me wrong, I think binary drivers due > play an issue, by my BSD desktop had binary drivers in it too, they > just weren't supplied with the BSD images (I don't think they would > have been stored with linux images either). > > anyway, just another two cents of my own. > > -Jim Stapleton Err... well, arguably a lot more of the Linux community may be individuals with a hacker mindset as opposed to a developer mindset. Just a thought. -Garrett