From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 15 21:23:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27166 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26963 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA05157; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:52:36 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980416135236.I1090@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:52:36 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Snob Art Genre , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: the place of vi References: <19980415191237.50402@urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980415191237.50402@urh.uiuc.edu>; from dannyman on Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 07:12:37PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (moved to -chat) On Wed, 15 April 1998 at 19:12:37 -0500, dannyman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 06:10:44PM -0400, Snob Art Genre wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >> >>> What're you going to say to a poor non-hacker when their system fails to >>> mount their /usr partition, and you can just BARELY convince them that vi >>> is usable? >> >> "Here's a floppy with a statically compiled version of ee on it. I can >> understand not wanting to try to figure out vi when your system is >> blowing up, in fact, I keep a (static) copy of ee in /bin for that same >> reason." > > Indeed, ee would seem a better call, unless it's too bloated - not all > syadmins know how to use vi, but ee is easy enough for even the 'leetest > hackers to figure out when they're trying to ressurect /etc/fstab :) The great advantage of vi is that it's available everywhere. I use Emacs for real work, but it's a pain to use on a character terminal, so I use vi there. I need to know vi for dozens of reasons. Why make me learn a tu^Hhird editor? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message