From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 6 9:46:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E5E37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354B443EB2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:46:24 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D6B755D04; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:46:23 -0800 (PST) To: chris@pennasoft.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update strategies In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Dec 2002 08:32:29 EST." <200212060832.29240.chris@pennasoft.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:46:23 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20021206174623.D6B755D04@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Chris BeHanna > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:32:29 -0500 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > On Friday 06 December 2002 00:44, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > > > > I cvsup the source 3x/week via cron, ports slightly less often, and > > buildworld when I feel like it (which isn't TOO often) or when > > there's a security announcement made. > > Polite inquiry: why are you cvsup'ing so often when you only > rebuild seldom? You're generating extra load on the cvsup mirror that > you're using to no productive end. I'm unsure of the validity of this argument. It is generating load more often, but each update is small as only the changed files are downloaded. There is some (perhaps significant) load generated by the test to see which files need to be updated, but little traffic moves. If you only update every once in a while, you will do a large download of a great many files. The issues is whether the public cvsup servers are more concerned about I/O and network bandwidth or CPU load. I'll admit that I don't know. The real reason I would NOT do this is that I want my sources to match what is actually running. But many people probably never look at the sources, so they don't care. > > I'm looking into portupgrade to update ports, it seems like it's > > going to be cool! > > It is. Once you have a populated /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, > it can save you a lot of time. > > I'm still not willing to do "portupgrade -aF" nightly, but it > still saves me time. I do a cvsup of ports on one system nightly, rebuild the database, and do a 'portversion -vL=' to see what needs to be updated. I do the actual updates the next morning, sometimes selectively. I only do this on one system so that I can pre-test before ports are updated on other systems which I do weekly or (for servers) less often. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message