From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 21:56:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16880 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16868 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:56:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA24737 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:55:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA28053 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:56:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03067 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:56:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:55:59 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Rico Pajarola Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre Albsmeier Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Message-ID: <19990208065559.A16209@internal> References: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch>; from Rico Pajarola on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 05:04:30PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 07-Feb-1999 at 17:04:30 +0100, Rico Pajarola wrote: > At 14:54 99.02.07 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > >Just to add it for reference: Machines from our company (Siemens) also don't > >work with dangerously dedicated disks :-( They have a thing called Phoenix > >BIOS and I have got plenty of them... > > > >Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have > >problems with it... > Most of these well known names have their own, 'improved' BIOS. They do > more sanity checks on everything, which in some rare cases can make life > easier and 'safer', but in most cases they are a nuisance. There are other > ways to get problems with a Compaq BIOS than DD, eg a brand new > unpartitioned disk :( there are ways around those problems, but it can be a > real nuisance even if you're just installing win95 (as if win95 alone > wasn't enough of a nuisance) > So if it doesn't work, it's not because DD is a bad (or wrong) thing, but No, DD isn't a bad thing. I prefer it over NDD because it's simpler. > the BIOS checks for something it just should not check (ie it should only > look at the signature on the master boot record, and if it is ok, it should > load it without any further tests). > Those 'well known' names should fix their broken BIOSes, as they've always > caused problems with non-dos (=fat16) OSes (yes, even win95b with fat32 was > a problem with some vendors BIOS). I hope not because this is the reason I need for buying other machines :-). You can trust me, it's hard to buy non-Siemens PCs if you are working at Siemens... > You've been warned that DD may not work for you, and no one foces you to > use it. You know which BIOSes are likely not to work with it, and there > actually are cases where it can make one's life easier :) _I_ know that it doesn't work with machines from above companies, and _I_ know what to do against it (_I_ don't use them). I just wanted to add another name to the list in case someone needs it in future. > > Sorry if this was a bit too loud, but I just don't want to see DD go away. So do I. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message