From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:09:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533341065672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-chat-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6ED8FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1444 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 21:09:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2010 21:09:05 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 116E850852; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:09:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Programmer In Training References: <4BBCBFDA.5060904@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:09:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4BBCBFDA.5060904@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> (Programmer In Training's message of "Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:24:42 -0500") Message-ID: <44iq83m0ls.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Problems With New Audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:09:06 -0000 Programmer In Training writes: > I would go to questions, but I'm not sure it's relevant there so I > thought I'd ask here. > > I just received a new, never been unwrapped before I touched it, audio > CD (Santcus Real, Pieces of a Real Heart). I can play it via 'cdcontrol > play' but it won't play in VLC, Audacious won't recognize it, and > Asunder can't rip it (for my fair use copy). Return it as defective. Even if this is a case of copy protection, that makes it defective. To be honest, I doubt that it's intentional copy protection, but I don't see why it matters anyway. > Just an FYI, I do not download torrents of music (owned or otherwise, if > I own it why do I need to torrent it), and this won't change that fact. > It will, however, color future ideas about purchasing from this artist. Don't blame the artist; blame the record label. If they *own* the record label, then go ahead and put the blame anywhere you like.