From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 29 13:36:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A71016A41C; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:36:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FC443D4C; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:36:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 664225C9EA; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:36:34 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20050629133634.GN40423@elvis.mu.org> References: <20050628154627.GJ40423@elvis.mu.org> <790a9fff05062809211c27a435@mail.gmail.com> <20050628164703.GK40423@elvis.mu.org> <20050629045711.GA1007@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050629045711.GA1007@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: kan@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Scot Hetzel , obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libstdc++ version bump. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:36:34 -0000 * Kris Kennaway [050628 21:57] wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:47:03AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > No, it's not that. It's just that when we decided to upgrade gcc/g++ > > in the 5.2.1 era someone didn't bump the library version for > > libstdc++. > > > > It would have been a two second change, but instead it appears that > > it was decided that early adopters REALLY needed to be put in their > > place for being stupid enough... to be early adopters. > > No, it wasn't that simple..there were many places where the ABI was > broken, and it wasn't feasible to fix them all. "So instead of screwing a subset of the users we screwed them all." I'm not really happy that mindset but if it's working for us(*) then I guess we should keep doing it. (*) not me, as I always seem to get hosed by these things. -- - Alfred Perlstein - email: bright@mu.org cell: 408-480-4684