From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 24 23:34:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD1106564A for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E84A8FC19 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5369 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2011 23:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 23:34:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mgdYVUGGcwIdMDeWwHQw7RZ6kvlNdPkU37qVQP765BgAO1BwLgIEcgeFxgtgxH2RzGwjKjKhElDIbQZp+8NcQ7mIgJcbR8Um0rHJ7sALO3wBLVif7F2MbRpGMX+VQE7Z; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pskhu-0001dH-4h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:34:51 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:24:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:24:04 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20110224232404.GA13838@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20110224234044.0df661c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110224225425.GB13490@guilt.hydra> <20110225001301.e4f6d95f.freebsd@edvax.de> <21929_1298589484_4D66E72C_21929_309_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499BD35499F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Backtick versus $() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:34:52 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 07:00:11PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > > Everyone is wrong! "pfmsh" is the best at everything, period. =A0It does > > everything you can possibly think of today and tomorrow. =A0It doesn't > > require any upgrades, ever. =A0It's 100% secure. =A0It doesn't use any > > memory or other resources, $hit, it doesn't even need to be installed; > > it just "magically" works. >=20 > you can ignore all you want, but there are shells of different quality, > and tcsh is inferior to mksh in everyway You keep saying that. Maybe it's just personal taste. >=20 > there are no interactive features in csh that could justify its > inclusion over mksh, and the code is regarded as horrible (as per author > and people with eyes) because of the adhoc parser >=20 > tcsh people fixed a few bugs, but that doesn't change that the intrinsic > design is a mess. the tcsh also added stupid redundant builtins like > ls-F >=20 > mksh also has stupid builtins like cat, but it makes up for it by being > an extremely solid shell and overall more polished than the horrible > turd that is (t)csh So far, your complaints translate to "Well, sure, for every concrete (t)csh problem I've identified, mksh has similar problems, but it's better because I like it." --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1m6JQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUmqgCbBu8P7a31cPCl3zi2s+rnGUiV RDcAnRkZP8WHxfM6WZK+bBiXEHjlmMOb =7RTz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM--