From nobody Mon Aug 25 12:53:22 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4c9W1d3mDgz65l77 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4c9W1d2DBtz3CNs; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756126405; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NmLK1Tv0aF20O0XN6ZNqSAZQdOgP/XuFvhFk7cr95zw=; b=JmaSNUsdOQSFcT0fxsjmJgy/WwW6Ofy9yt72rV1WXryFCTvx/Kr6mK0k6UoE7llJITowct v5Xf+x5h9bnNi1n8aYT+yNe4qrbTq/nz6iJhw1E+fMoYVITOfemHqjPFgxN5fRUQF4u/Oj byQIzeW8ZjX0nB31gz0dVqV6DaLLZNn2SkbzmWvx5MJwlhJTDHCSVXL0G5RK4i66zlbEVj r9WmW+nojH5Wyfy/GTuS5qK41sx75Zkfz2ZlmW0F0pD2YLPWz1T6wPVjxpy5LHVJ3MMsRY LnfA4mSot0GxtRGxGf5/Cd9CMti8ROOvf4/xpU2vbC+JodVye/gsoMLTm2mziQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756126405; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NmLK1Tv0aF20O0XN6ZNqSAZQdOgP/XuFvhFk7cr95zw=; b=jWvJyuonDSYS1sFjZYXIF8y4g7bMEVnWfk20mG/2ZCGuelCnAPLYqP5lW50m48vfu/weWE QViIJs9zc1qmJTE47op18vYx4xZA59dnoaGIlXzioCW+kRzLREtVNjgJeNg/vjzRM25Tnh XlhhDZoOYRB3BUo2wmVBwA1AvpXuNa6ltD3xE0j5jMRPL8Q8M9oMLg0G7b5Hhgg2i97YDr 44O0kwVAigQZz+xE45q2+lnOAFGY7zn+wFe6BG3Da6dapq9oiEu3S3o55xkN+QsNSfRj1g DJhrccp8Q4k32FhurGdg5ucc4XZb/z+kF10BsFJX4vi8M7pkgSvm0xb/iCTY4g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756126405; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oOTpaWXYlDiXFAJTY0V4179aw5wqhKwLzhVmWB0sPRElqCVbfh1qTjysu1jxTauAFDPGi/ qRG6Ow0gKuicHRzAQyI4J5jgRc9uWZ0AoYUXR6UiPAE6DZ19Vgxcllm4ASYU6SAkMx89+U n0N4IsHc9OBg+GizLSAKzdVBV3eh3f1cuy6wp7C4xQqk+ofJAM3Ku3duBSR2MGiGqQiEVJ HL/qsvaNLPLxcM4it+dHpTs1TRiU+hrzvH80SKVWDGlQNqb8gTW9HT0Cguj3pt6wbwZeXJ mO5J2pp3yfyNl9S+heYjbKcxLdFrcXGHsPlFX2Q2JVuj0UijLlSB++IPUwGyVw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from cell.glebi.us (glebi.us [162.251.186.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: glebius) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4c9W1c6FVCz1RXx; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:53:22 -0700 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: August 2025 stabilization week Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Hi, On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 01:00:07AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> This is an automated email to inform you that the August 2025 stabilization week T> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n279838-6c45a5dad0a0, which was tagged as T> main-stabweek-2025-Aug. This stabilization cycle is expected to be more bumpy than usually. 1) We got major upgrade - OpenSSL 3.5.1. One known issue is that the legacy provider is broken. 2) The default Kerberos now is MIT. We have already checked that a Kerberized NFS client can migrate from Heimdal to MIT. We did not check Kerberized NFS server, but should be fine. There is no yet an official way to migrate kdc from Heimdal to MIT. So, if you are upgrading a machine that is kdc, you need WITHOUT_MITKRB5="yes" in your src.conf. 3) The official pkg repo is now almost empty, see email from Colin [1]. So, do not rush with 'make delete-old-libs', unless you are ready to build a lot of packages yourself. 4) The unfortunate coincidence with 3) is ABI breakage in the setgroups(2)/getgroups(2) syscalls compared to the July stabilization point. Some packages would dump core. These packages need to be rebuilt. 5) At Netflix our A/B testing capacities are overloaded, and we may not be able to start testing immediately today. Anyway, all this challenges are not a reason to delay or skip the stabilization week. The purpose of the week is to get CURRENT in a good shape, so let's dive in and focus on fixing problems. This week is also more important than usually, since we are approaching 15.0-RELEASE. [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2025-August/008458.html -- Gleb Smirnoff