From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 2 06:26:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BD21065672 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DAC8FC17 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB26PiIC005017; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:26:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:26:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20091202062617.GA1342@thought.org> References: <20091201230157.GA99062@thought.org> <9176F7CB-372D-4881-AB8E-FE1803AA9A0A@mac.com> <20091202000313.GE99059@thought.org> <8441B02F-BA0B-4D64-A884-77E30DDB22F9@mac.com> <20091202005156.GF99059@thought.org> <20091202043903.GO89004@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091202043903.GO89004@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How known? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:26:35 -0000 On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:39:03PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Dec 01), Gary Kline said: > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:05:17PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >> Most mail user agents have an option to enable "read receipts"; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. > > > > > > > > What are DSN and MDN, please? > > > > > > Delivery Status Notification, Message Disposition Notification > > > > > > > Wow; amazing. i'Ve been checking thru /usr/local/etc/Muttrc > > and found something interesting. This, circa lins #2900 ++: > > > > # [[ ... ]] > > > > Be nice to suggest to the mutt folks to let this be turned on only for > > certain email. I *have* tried to sub to the mutt mailinglist, but never > > get any responce. AFAIK, there is no forum, so maybe it's time to roll my > > own hack! > > Not even a bounce message back? That's odd. You can try posting to the > list via the gmane interface, or join the #mutt irc channel on > irc.freenode.net and see if anyone can help there. No bounceback, nada. I'm wondering if it's dead for the time being. I haven't a clue about the irc stuff. --- > > The mutt method for changing options based on specific criteria is called > "hooks". In your case, you want to use a send hook like this: > > send-hook "." "set dsn_notify=none" > send-hook "~t user@host.com" "set dsn_notify=failure,delay,success" > > Note that dsn is only delivery notification; it doesn't let you know that a > message has been read. For that, you can try > > send-hook "." "unmy_hdr Disposition-Notification-To:" > send-hook "~t user@host.com" "my_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: my@email.com" > > , but even if your recipient's mailer understands that header, most let the > user turn it off if they want. I'm certainly guilty of not having read the entire Muttrc, but do not understand the "hook" options. I'll google around for info and look at the FAW on the mutt site. Really, it isn't *that* important. It is an option that would be nice to have. But not that often. gary > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php