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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:04:22 -0700
From:      jd1008 <jd1008@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it?
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On 02/19/2015 06:18 AM, Jerry wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:22:21 +0100, Polytropon stated:
>
>> Excuse me, but what poop-minded movie is _that_ from?!
>>
>> In my (layman's) education about law I learned that "could",
>> "would", "should", and a bright imagination don't lead you
>> anywhere in a constituational state that is prout on providing
>> a legal system under the requirements of the rule of law.
>> It's the job of the investigators to _prove_ you're guilty,
>> not your job to prove you're not. Of course, that job isn't
>> always easy, I can understand this, and far too often, the
>> criminals get away because they know "some clever tricks".
>> But it's fully unacceptable that the whole thing turns around
>> in such a way that there is a _chance_ that innocent people
>> get convicted because of the _absence_ of evidence.
> Actually, you are not factually correct. There have been convictions based on
> the fact that the defendant invoked his 5th. Amendment rights to an
> excessive degree. The jury based the conviction on the simple fact that if
> the actions of the defendant were not nefarious, he/she would not have used
> the 5th. Amendment to such excursiveness.
>
> This has happened several times in the US. Actually, it makes sense. If you
> were not hiding something then why not disclose the facts. In any case, you
> do not need evidence to convict anyone. You have a legal system that can
> spend literally millions of dollars for a conviction and a public defender
> that will receive $250. per day per defendant. Usually their requests for
> extra funds for investigative resources is denied. The fact that anyone is
> ever found not guilty is actually quite unusual. If you don't think so, you
> watch way to much TV. Spend a few months at your local court house and see
> what really happens.
>
What a pile of manure.
Any decent and intelligent lawyer could appeal such
cased and have the conviction thrown out of court -
this, assuming that our court systems and judges are
actually fully beholden to the constitution and the rule
of law, and due process.

I am sorry to say that the events of the last 45 years
have demonstrated (to me) that the court systems and
judges are not always what they are supposed to be.

Sleep tight everyone, You are in protective custody
for your own safety.

Are there any disk drived (old IDE's) that do not have
this intrusion in them? Back to what year of manufacture.



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