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Date:      Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:17:40 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Bart van Leeuwen <bart@ixori.demon.nl>
To:        Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-smp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SMP and vn
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003270116040.480-100000@isengard.ixori.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20000326153003.A413@relativity.student.utwente.nl>

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just to let you know that I 'reproduced' this without vn in my
kernel.. tho it happens less often it seems. 

Bart van Leeuwen
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Dave Boers wrote:

> It is rumoured that Bart van Leeuwen had the courage to say:
> > In any case, it looks to me that SMP + vnode + heavy load == freeze.
> 
> For me: SMP + sit_and_wait_for_5_days_or_so == freeze. 
> 
> > Is there anyone with simular experience? is there anything documented
> > about using vn on smp systems?
> 
> I've got the same symptoms. I don't have the vn device in my kernel though
> and I can't seem to trigger the hang with a heavy load. I am running Abit
> BP6 with two 400 Mhz Celerons (not overclocked) and 128 Mb of RAM. 
> 
> I haven't been able to get an uptime > 10 days since Christmas or so. I
> used to track 4.0-current, but now I'm running RELENG_4; with the same
> problems still. 
> 
> The hangs are _complete_. There's no getting into the debugger, the system
> won't respond to console/serial terminal/network/whatever. 
> 
> I tried to duplicate the situation by configuring a single processor
> Pentium II machine with _very_ similar hardware and the exact same kernel
> configuration (it has 384 Mb ram though). That one has now been running for
> 16 days without a problem, so it definitely seems SMP related. 
> 
> I turned off softupdates on all my filesystems, but it doesn't seem related
> to the hangs.
> 
> Right now I am running with a reduced kernel. I deleted the pcm and ata
> drivers (system is now running off scsi only - Tekram 390U2W) and I also
> alltogether removed softupdates from the kernel as well as anything else
> that wasn't absolutely necessary. 
> 
> In about 5-10 days I'll know wether this has helped. 
> 
> If anyone has any further insights into this huge problem, I'd love to hear
> about it! 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
>     Dave. 
> 
> -- 
>   Dave Boers             < djb @ relativity . student . utwente . nl >
>   Physics graduate student && unix/BSD sysadmin - University of Twente
>   Public key:  ftp://relativity.student.utwente.nl/pub/pgpkeys/djb.asc  
> 
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