From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 23 19:33:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C47F689; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22b.google.com (mail-oa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4662BA8; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id o6so10806366oag.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:33:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i4QBwQTT0YutgKQ58HMAWB7e68EkbOJdmE5YazTdrXE=; b=fx04nrJ2qvwIy1QfH4CfKL43exQOKKeymgWxVRg55R0OzL6O0dNIYAv9TL9skfe6rT 7bx+uajejf0H/Hrzl/xQNwszxUKFOc+5s8aDZOdPCQJlAAgddgGy3eIUKbrhs6ptqYAp G9H9tDwMC704NIv6f+0aMWEPwa9fDzwZqAjsc4PWM0nf8wdwG9EAt9sWzb9zAf2+1mK5 X9WDTSQfDVA/M6uSVey+0BbvyY6t0oB+nsg0GueWCNj+/NkO7OCrKEZ1+lBE2iXIz/cY NUubMp0q3RZMeDgnPO+qeZev8pNn+56IuuXBfxkJKwwPTzdIQY1XQ6iXBjBZHPSw2CKx vw9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.141.67 with SMTP id rm3mr4445441oeb.78.1403552018500; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.154.8 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:33:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53A72666.8090101@cox.net> <53A78C13.8030909@freebsd.org> <53A82008.9050002@digiware.nl> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:33:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Improve cron(8) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Tomek_Wa=C5=82aszek?= To: Adrian Chadd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Willem Jan Withagen , Alfred Perlstein X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:33:39 -0000 2014-06-23 18:53 GMT+02:00 Adrian Chadd : > On 23 June 2014 06:26, Tomek Wa=C5=82aszek wrote: > > > Hello, > > I got your point. > > From the technical perspective it should be quite easy to implement thi= s > > feature, but I'm not sure whether this will get positive feedback. I > > remeber that there was a discussion on the OpenBSD mailing lists (there > was > > even a patch for this) but they don't like the idea :) maybe FreeBSD > > project will like it, I don't know. > > > > At the moment I want to update FreeBSD cron to ISC cron (with all the > > features that FreeBSD has at the moment and ISC does not have) and > > integrate atrun into cron like it was done in OpenBSD cron. After that > (or > > faster who knows :)) maybe we should have a discussion about this idea. > > Sweet! > > Well, hm. How should we do it? Can we run both cron's in the same > source tree and just pick which to build/install? They're both > different crons, right? Or is there a common ancestor that makes the > diff not so terrible? > > > -a > Hi, I don't quite follow you, who said that there will be cron's? There will be one cron, from the functional perspective it will work just like it is working now. The main differences will be that for example crontab will not have suid, atrun will be integrated and it will for example has the ability to run jobs from files in /var/cron.d but this will be not mandatory feature to use, /etc/crontab will stay. --=20 Best regards, Tomasz Wa=C5=82aszek