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Date:      Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:21:12 +0300
From:      Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Removing documentation
Message-ID:  <56BDCE38.30200@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <56BCE218.40403@marino.st>
References:  <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <56BCE01D.4010701@FreeBSD.org> <56BCE218.40403@marino.st>

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On 11.02.2016 22:33, John Marino wrote:

>>> ports-mgmt/synth.  I would love to hear what signficant thing 
>>> portmaster can do that Synth can't.  (honestly)
>> Be installed FROM PORTS without all this build-one-more-gcc
>> stuff. Ada? For *port*management* tool? Are you joking?
> 
> Let me guess.  You've spent actually 0.0 nanoseconds preparing on
> the subject before providing this enlightened take for the list.
 Ok, let me expand.

 I see here contradiction. There are people who prefer binary
packages. There are people who prefer ports (local builds). Both ways
are perfectly Ok to me. I'm prefer ports, because I have only a few
full-featured FreeBSD installations, and I don't like many ports
options defaults (=packages defaults). If I have much more FreeBSD
hosts, it could be worth for me to have one custom package repository,
but in my particular case, it isn't worth it.

 So, ports. If I'm using ports, I want to use ports. Not "install this
from package and that from ports". And in such situation I want to
have set of "non-productive" ports (which doesn't solve server's
problem, but bookkeeping ones) minimal. This includes all these
auto*-crap, gmake, texinfo, and other build-depends. And have here
port-to-manage-ports which needs one-more-bloated-gcc-toolachain is
not what I want. And I need to have it here, because there will be
moment in time when I'll upgrade (rebuild!) synth itself.

 Synth could be great package for build server. I'll give it a try to
build packages for NanoBSD images, for example (instead of poudriere),
for sure. But not fore my ports-based installations.

- -- 
// Lev Serebryakov
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