From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Sat Aug 22 07:32:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BD09BE8B0 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: from linta.de (isilmar-3.linta.de [188.40.101.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBEE71A98 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: (qmail 12503 invoked by uid 10); 22 Aug 2015 07:25:20 -0000 Received: from hilbert.linta.de by isilmar.linta.de with BSMTP; 22 Aug 2015 07:25:20 -0000 Received: by hilbert.linta.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B288AB86EA; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:25:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:25:11 +0200 From: "Klaus T. Aehlig" To: "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" Cc: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Do you still need CTM? Message-ID: <20150822072510.GB2813@hilbert.linta.de> References: <201508201201.t7KC13pd060715@fire.js.berklix.net> <55D69111.4050901@missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55D69111.4050901@missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:32:05 -0000 Hi, just to get the count right: I'm another happy user of ctm and would be very sad if CTM went away. Thanks for providing such a valuable service. > I really do agree with the person from FreeBSD central who emailed me. > I think we should move CTM away from the FreeBSD base. If someone else > disagrees with me, then they should take it over, and then argue their > case directly with the FreeBSD project. If the only change is that ctm will have to be installed from ports rather than from base, then I do not see a big problem with this, if the signed emails continue to flow. Also, when preparing the port, it might be a good idea to prepare an additional port providing everything needed to generate deltas and emails yourself so that others can take over easily... > Right now, maintaining CTM is relatively easy for me. And to be honest, > it has brought me a lot of benefits in gaining experience of writing > additional code, or learning a bit about tcl and other scripting > languages. As long as the work load stays relatively the same, I see no > major personal cost in maintaining it. And I am happy to keep it going > to help those handful of people around the world who get benefit from it. > > But if, for example, the University of Missouri took away the virtual > computer I use to generate CTMs, or they insist on a major redesign of > web pages they host for "branding" reasons, then I'll really have to > think seriously about giving it up. ...should anything happen to your setup at the University of Missouri. (Take over either for the whole CTM community, or just for themselfs generating deltas on their well-connected machine to serve their own hardly reachable ones.) Thanks again for your service to all CTM users, Klaus