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From: Nick Wolff <darkfiberiru@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 22:29:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: Boot still broken from r349133-r349160 - Was re:(Problem with USB
 after r349133)
To: "Clay Daniels Jr." <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>,
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Sorry boot is broken from harddrive or iso(as cdrom) for some users(at
least 3) since somewhere in the revisions listed above and that still
stands as of the Head snapshot of 072519. Sorry for lack of clarity. There
was a thread under Problem with USB after r349133 but I decided to rename
it to try to catch more people's eyes/get more reports in if people run
into the issue. Don't think or at least know for sure USB is the problem as
when you bypass the waiting for USB you get a different hang farther into
system booting.

I will try to bisect the build in that magic revision range once I figure
out on what system as it's my primary builder that's having this issue. Not
that I have a lack of hardware I guess just time to setup something else.




On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 21:45 Clay Daniels Jr. <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Rodney, you are right that the .iso "should work", and a lot of other
> projects, from Microsoft Windows 10 to Trident BSD only a furnish an iso,
> and no img file. FreeBSD is one of the few that give you both choices. The
> problem goes deeper than any one operating system. If you've ever used the
> Rufus tool to make a bootable usb, which is all Rufus does, you may have
> come across problems with "mount root". I found this article, answered by a
> Rufus developer very enlightening.
>
> https://superuser.com/questions/1170832/why-are-there-different-options-for-creating-bootable-usb-compared-to-a-cd
>
> I have a collection of usb thumbdrives here at my desk, and use them a
> lot, but I also bought me some blank dvd disks and use them too.
>
> But I think you are right, Nick Wolff's problem may be a a bug to be
> reported. All I know is I took the same file,
> FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190725-r350322-disc1.iso
> <https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190725-r350322-disc1.iso>
> , burned it to a dvd, and I'm now writing this email from the FreeBSD
> 13.0-CURRENT r350322 partition of my computer.
>
> Clay
>