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Date:      Tue, 5 Dec 2017 23:33:42 +0100
From:      Steve Clement <steve@localhost.lu>
To:        Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
Message-ID:  <20171205223342.r63xkbn4tiy6we3q@localhost.lu>
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* On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 08:55:00AM +1100, Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.gerag=
hty@heuristicsystems.com.au> wrote:
> On 6/12/2017 8:13 AM, Yuri wrote:
> > On 12/05/17 13:04, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> >> It is illusion that https is more secure than unencrypted http in a
> >> sense of MITM
> >> just because of encryption, it is not.
> >
> >

Dear all,

Is it really wise suggesting that http is not that bad?

While you are at it, perhaps reviving telnet is a good idea. (Yes it is a
bad comparison)

If your answer is to just not use it, good luck for the past.

> It can be illusory. =C2=A0 My last job was as Sec Mgr for a large bank.=
=C2=A0 They
> disabled cert checking on client devices, placed a wildcard cert at the
> internet boundary and captured all https unencrypted.=C2=A0 An alternative
> approach to advocate is dnssec.=C2=A0 :)

And you just let this happen under your watch?

> You also need to ensure integrity, to ensure that the numbers are
> flipped in transit...=C2=A0 ;)

As a security person you do have responsibilities. Of course if you (as a
security person) gave up on all that, you might as well go to the beach and
use your CB to talk to your Dr.

I cannot believe these attitudes, can perhaps other people weigh-in,
especially to the issue at hand?

Looking forward to the first person brining up performance issues, in
end-of-2017=E2=80=A6

Sincerely yours,

Steve

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