From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 02:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE89116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202443D58 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1338651256; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:50:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:50:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Emmerton Message-ID: <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 07:41:00PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: > > What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not > > just smarthost through their servers? >=20 > Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by > a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop > outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they > require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you > can't use personal domains (like this one). >=20 > Kris >=20 > ----------- reply separator ------------- >=20 > Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers. I've been sending mail > directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without > going through their "smart" hosts. This was one of the reasons I switched > to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me= to > use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail. I don't understand what your point is...I didn't say rogers forced you to use their smarthost, only that lots of people (e.g. lots of people in europe and russia, in my experience) blacklist your emails when you don't. Kris --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPjZqWry0BWjoQKURAiCTAKDArgme563A6f64Mp+GIpwetigVIwCdGvbl fw+PvIYMcIPkIFFpOnqZ9FI= =C/Ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA--