From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:39:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C1C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:39:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pit.databus.com (p72-0-224-2.acedsl.com [72.0.224.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC06F43D96 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from barney@databus.com) Received: from pit.databus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pit.databus.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j452YG2R005798; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:34:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney@pit.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by pit.databus.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j452YEfG005797; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:34:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:34:14 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050505023414.GA4646@pit.databus.com> References: <20050504113817.GD22956@empiric.icir.org> <20050504132429.GA2105@uk.tiscali.com> <5207b55e44478fa93e3689ad79b54f4d@mac.com> <20050504.152439.71089989.imp@bsdimp.com> <4279767D.5010203@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4279767D.5010203@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 66.114.72.185 cc: Warner Losh cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:39:31 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 07:27:25PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > OSX used csh by default until the 10.3 series release. You can still > (thankfully) select it. IMHO, csh/tcsh is superior for interactive > use, and bash/ksh is superior for scripting. It's amazing what happens > when you pick the right tool for the job; hammers are vastly superior > at pounding nails, while screw drivers are vastly superior at turning > screws. In my aged and inflexible opinion, whatever shell one is used to is the best tool, and attempts by all parties to assert the superiority of their personal favorites are ridiculous. Since /etc/passwd has included a line for toor for as long as I can remember, I can use ksh and leave root's shell as whatever it is. Then again, I still use vi, so what do I know? -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I never met a computer I didn't like.