From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 03:49:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D871065671 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033E8FC12 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.109]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K3G00D9TQMQMT70@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K3G002A9QMP8Z70@pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cydem.org ([24.87.3.133]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K3G0038AQMOUY10@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from freen0de (s64-180-126-80.bc.hsia.telus.net [64.180.126.80]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id 0A99A7F2E4; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:49:32 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080703204932.5ac9f5b7@freen0de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: whizzter@gmail.com Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:49:38 -0000 > I totally agree about the price being insane. Some people swear by > SCSI usually having better quality parts, no idea on how much that > corresponds to the truth tho. I believe that all it comes down to, is quality assurance for SCSI (hence the price difference). How many DOA or failed SCSI disks have you seen in your life? Then how about ATA (especially in the last couple years)? I've had only 2 failed SCSI disks. One was an insanely old IBM model DCHS, which could have lived hadn't I messed with it: pulled it out from the server to make a backup(!), hooked it up to another controller, and the interface ASIC blew up in smoke; fortunately, I was able to get another one of those, and by swapping the PCB I was saved. The other one is ModusLnk 137Gb U320, which are refurbished Fujitsu MAU units, which were designed as ATA-class disks with SCSI interface anyway. It developed bad sectors (found out by SMART), and I'm still using it. > / Jonas Lund [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2