From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 1 20:31:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743F8106566B for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsf@cuba.calyx.nl) Received: from cuba.calyx.nl (cuba.calyx.nl [213.130.163.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE378FC0A for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cuba.calyx.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87101197BE2A; Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:13:46 +0200 From: Bill Squire {billsf} To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090901201346.GA2432@cuba.calyx.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: The only problems with v8.0 are: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:31:07 -0000 These 'bug' me: There are always going to be the bugs we never see, but the following three seem to be real. (Note I'm using yesterday's rpc/xdr.h to get the cddl stuff to build which provides zfs.) 8.0 is ready. The '/boot/loader' has been a long time problem. If I'm the only one that knows Forth (my first computer language) I probably can fix it. However, a loader from v7 should do fine. There appears to be a typo in one of the cddl 32bit Makefiles. It doesn't get a certain header file into */obj/. That file is: '/usr/include/rpc/xdr.h'. The other problem is an annoyance. I believe snd_uaudio is not expecting HID. Plugging in the driver in with hardware attached causes instant (but harmless) freezing and no dump. Tests are with the C-Media CM106 and CM108. They can be had for as little as 5 Euros. They sound excellent through my Genelecs. If you do electronics take out the descriptors for HID. Alternately the snd_hda driver is a masterpiece. The old snd_es137x cards were the last of the great 'soundblasters' and sound excellent. (Forget the new cards.) While not every- one is a 'practical audiophile' like me, I'm sure most have at least an extra soundcard. I like USB because it puts the analogue circuitry away from the digital. I can live with hda at last. :) BillSF I'm running an SMP amd64 K9 (quickly the name was realised) with 8GB RAM, a typical developer system. Believe the BSD speed -- not the BIOS and adjust to assure you are not over-clocking. Note an Athlon 3000MHz is an Opteron 2800MHz and AMD advises 2800MHzfor this part. A stack of dual 2800's makes for a killer system. Professionally, I prefer multiple singles running in NUMA mode. (Call it SMP for the kernel, but its more like clustered computers.) I'll be standing by if I can verify any bug reports not mentioned. The worst thing is bad hardware -- 100 buck motherboards in particular. Asus makes a few good ones and the "M3A78 PRO" is a 'best value'. Otherwise spend 300 bucks for a real motherboard. I keep several previous builds just in case. I'm over to v9.0 -- the easiest transition so far. B.