From nobody Sun Jul 12 08:30:12 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gydzp51jxz6l3Y1 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2026 08:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "YR1" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gydzp2qcWz3FQ1; Sun, 12 Jul 2026 08:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1783845014; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aFd3O+YD1HFuCK/zxSoTH2AR66TeW4pltf4eQ4byEmQ=; b=rCg+ldNIIh+Yaruvy/O+zn9uBEAznWWBbqbaIhklnhAnhBjxn4QFdDMwrZj6hf90ThEB3K MrDnYbTM677KMtJoL60QYjoeov7ofXFiTeQ0oIlx2XTrSGCRDZNPFuLjI48khAmJq7Jr4m ZTO2DSJbGNDRosTnqNvLKryuSfcxzwSxruazPexpzEH1MpjPRqVEGDdSZX8RJzd1A2Yql9 CwWSrgoD0veughSCBm4U9qeb2u/9kxGvXw9cDJuTlR3MrWtiaFVVfLnknhA/SIwGREWa44 b199QD0hZznsYrMxneacRunM5pQAfqnVXHd1kFhBepdFKT138zm7r22JCNmqGg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1783845014; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mrkErTwWwLCNLW0ESj6/XG83yDqP2pBFlDZQj/BYH6zIpUIo9bRLpU4ydN1eOGXZtdKJ10 YUAQh3wTm/dTRP5YMZEM0YsdpowPpAZwIqDZbTYkp6jcLALt4dij3BoZalCepXK3QA/TxA nwmQ2Krz78j4QiMt60K6rdkcja+DotgTF77Rsy23Q5+RYhpC3RgXLlDBRRf2/zvEgdM7SK BlcNYc9wteIvEjRJv1jsONVgZSfSN7OW1tmtgDcnCZAE6lnKRFk61vVQ6BZDYdirfafhJ5 vOHr9G4veZ7brVDjwZAU3YP6JF88vm4xaIcuDZY8QPMDd9A4YBqKDJvnOxwi7Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1783845014; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aFd3O+YD1HFuCK/zxSoTH2AR66TeW4pltf4eQ4byEmQ=; b=dV3xybOGcqaOT6wKEC2/4p5kS1GabdglIFq6JDt3aKoMdhdgL5wh+x4bDJXOPI/+Lh1IlL qD3eSC2E+wIPIma6gITF69Uy18qVI4MmJyfocGtO1HJ8A0LZ2nfbpwaNYCIC6Ht6by7BfX WD2H3wnlOopeAZhI9xiJbdqd7JFRY2hmiSImwQei9xgJJ9GbiO9CHI1O2mQbxQsbccWvQB VZnzwY5dlBEIToi2lR55AiXuwTIVrMQ+rOct4skfZycNB+kZrclVpzkseaXUfKFTmYKDkK heGdc5JnpWkVKUe8d8rWgMpM0Rd2mogJEjVacsv/ozm1MiC17dLkqseOpLc/Aw== Received: from ltc.des.dev (92-129-202-201.ftth.fr.orangecustomers.net [92.129.202.201]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4gydzp0qsDzyw6; Sun, 12 Jul 2026 08:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4AA3B80F44; Sun, 12 Jul 2026 10:30:12 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-pkgbase Subject: Re: Old /usr/bin/* files (and more) still around on modern main, long updated via pkgbase: looks like having FreeBSD-src installed and doing make check-old and the like are appropriate? In-Reply-To: <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5@yahoo.com> (Mark Millard's message of "Sat, 11 Jul 2026 15:36:43 -0700") References: <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5.ref@yahoo.com> <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2026 10:30:12 +0200 Message-ID: <865x2k390r.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Millard writes: > On a upstream pkgbase system (pkgbase'd for a long time) I typed a > command, expecting the file to not be found:. But I got a command > from/for x86_64-unknown-freebsd15.0 . >=20 > # llc --version > LLVM (http://llvm.org/): > LLVM version 19.1.5 > Optimized build. We've never shipped llc as part of the default install, so this shows this system was previously maintained from source using non-standard build options. > That leads me to wonder what else is old that is still around. So, > based on having the matching FreeBSD-src installed: [...] pkgbase does not leave old files around. These files were there before you converted. > Did I miss some sort of documented cleanup step? Yes, back when you were maintaining this system from source, you should have run `make delete-old` and `make delete-old-libs` regularly. You also shouldn't have converted to pkgbase using packages built with different options than what you'd been using previously. You should have simply done a last buildworld + buildkernel with the same options, then run `make update-packages` and installed the result. 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