From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Oct 7 17:35:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D61A37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f159.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A09743E77 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from verbophobe@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:35:41 -0700 Received: from 24.201.67.71 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 00:35:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.201.67.71] From: "Maxime Romano" To: oberman@es.net Cc: marcus@marcuscom.com, gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enlightenment and Gnome2 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:35:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2002 00:35:41.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1793200:01C26E62] Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: Joe Marcus Clarke >To: Kevin Oberman >CC: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Enlightenment and Gnome2 > >On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 17:39, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > From: Joe Marcus Clarke > > > Date: 07 Oct 2002 17:32:55 -0400 > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 17:20, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > I'd like to start moving to gnome2, but our site uses enlightenment >as > > > > the standard WM. I have heard that Enlightenment is not going to >work > > > > for gnome2, now or in the future. Well, I've got it working pretty fine... The thing is, you have to tune down gnome a little... For example, E hates nautilus (it considers it a window, and chaos ensues), and the gnome-panel has trouble staying sticky. Also, Gnome will have trouble setting it as it's default WM. Solution? Kill your current window manager, start E, then go to (on the gnome panel) Applications->Desktop Prefrences->Advanced->Sessions and then click on "Startup Applications". Add "/usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment" or whatever as a new startup application. Now, after Gnome starts up a few times, E will give you an error about a Window Manager already being started. Then you'll know that gnome got the point and switched WM. Feel free to remove the entry you just added in Sessions. (Onto example:) I've gotten it running fine here: http://24.201.67.71:1337/e-small.png http://www.jewcrew.org/~verbophobe/enlightenment.png (Warning: Huge-ass file) So, hey, try it, see if it suits you. - Maxime > > > > > > It is my understanding that GNOME 2 is moving towards metacity as the > > > default WM. However, the original sawfish developer has just moved >back > > > into action, and is fixing sawfish bugs left and right, so sawfish >might > > > stick around for a while longer. > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone confirm this? If it is the case, I guess I'll have to >look > > > > at metacity and see if it can do all that the users are used to > > > > enlightenment doing. > > > > > > You should be able to accomplish most things with either sawfish or > > > metacity. Metacity will definitely be much lighter weight that E. > > > > A 100,000 line COBOL program running in IBM 1401 emulation mode would > > be lighter weight than E. But that is not really much of a problem > > with modern CPUs and graphics cards. Users love the eye candy! > >You can always theme it up with stuff from http://art.gnome.org. > >Joe > > > > > Oh, well. They learn to live without it. (Or they will get someone > > else to care for their desktops like all our folks not in my > > group. After all, system admin is NOT in my job description.) > > > > Thanks! > > > > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > > > > >-- >PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message