From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 4 23:53:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20946 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20906; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:53:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00623; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:53:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199806050653.BAA00623@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: kernfs/procfs questions... In-Reply-To: <199806050555.WAA04406@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> from Jason Thorpe at "Jun 4, 98 10:55:49 pm" To: thorpej@nas.nasa.gov Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:53:26 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@mt.sri.com, mike@smith.net.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Thorpe said: > On Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:44:47 -0500 (EST) > "John S. Dyson" wrote: > > > Why don't you just stay away from the kernel, and work on things that > > you understand? > > Wow, you're a mature individual. > Yep, he has indicated that he didn't understand sections of code that he was threatening to modify. That comment reinforced specifically that issue. Of course, you exclude that context for your sniping. I took Nate's threat of modifing code that he doesn't own seriously. > > Obscurity is a very lame way of ensuring job security. > Actually, they have been hassling me for quite a while. I suggest that they do the work, and I'll feed them the info. Note that he had previously said that he doesn't understand the VM code, and I don't have time to teach him. I do suggest looking at the Red Daemon book, and if the person doesn't understand the documentation there, then there is little that can be done to help. One good thing about our code, is that we didn't reinvent things when there was no need to (we do not practice NIH syndrome.) Also, all algorithms are fully disclosed in source code, and there is no code that is explicitly obscured. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message