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Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.6.42 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: araujo@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <201707290417.v6T4HWGX048404@repo.freebsd.org> <98CDBA25-758F-4C2E-9A25-426B9DEEACBF@adamw.org> <22e402da-53de-3418-e3d9-9777cd35f778@FreeBSD.org> <20170731100728.frov3ttvs3qyxsm7@ivaldir.net> <0dd92f7f-5f3e-19df-acb8-c1d74f7c4d92@FreeBSD.org> From: Marcelo Araujo Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 00:40:35 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r446864 - head/sysutils/py3-iocage To: Bryan Drewery Cc: koobs@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , Adam Weinberger , ports-committers , "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Python Team , "portmgr@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:40:37 -0000 2017-08-01 0:26 GMT+08:00 Bryan Drewery : > On 7/31/2017 3:28 AM, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > > On 7/31/17 8:07 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:03:35PM +0800, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > >>> 2017-07-31 10:35 GMT+08:00 Kubilay Kocak : > >>> > >>>> On 7/31/17 11:16 AM, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2017-07-30 21:18 GMT+08:00 Adam Weinberger >>>>> >: > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 28 Jul, 2017, at 22:17, Marcelo Araujo >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Author: araujo > >>>>> > Date: Sat Jul 29 04:17:31 2017 > >>>>> > New Revision: 446864 > >>>>> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/446864 > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Log: > >>>>> > - Update to 0.9.9. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Changelog at: https://github.com/iocage/ > iocage/releases/tag/0.9.9 > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Modified: > >>>>> > head/sysutils/py3-iocage/Makefile > >>>>> > head/sysutils/py3-iocage/distinfo > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Modified: head/sysutils/py3-iocage/Makefile > >>>>> > > >>>>> ============================================================ > >>>> ================== > >>>>> > --- head/sysutils/py3-iocage/Makefile Sat Jul 29 04:00:56 2017 > >>>>> (r446863) > >>>>> > +++ head/sysutils/py3-iocage/Makefile Sat Jul 29 04:17:31 2017 > >>>>> (r446864) > >>>>> > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > >>>>> > # $FreeBSD$ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > PORTNAME= iocage > >>>>> > -PORTVERSION= 0.9.8.1 > >>>>> > +PORTVERSION= 0.9.9 > >>>>> > CATEGORIES= sysutils python > >>>>> > PKGNAMEPREFIX= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX} > >>>>> > > >>>>> > @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ BUILD_DEPENDS= > >>>>> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}pytest-runner>=2 > >>>>> > RUN_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}click>=6.7:devel/py3-click > \ > >>>>> > ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}tqdm>=4.10.0:misc/py3-tqdm > \ > >>>>> > > >>>>> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}coloredlogs>0:devel/py3-coloredlogs \ > >>>>> > + > >>>>> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}verboselogs>0:devel/py-verboselogs \ > >>>>> > ca_root_nss>0:security/ca_root_nss \ > >>>>> > > >>>>> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}texttable>=0.8.7:textproc/py3-texttable > \ > >>>>> > > >>>>> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}pytest-runner>=2.0.0:devel/py3- > pytest-runner > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Marcelo, > >>>>> > >>>>> There is no py36-verboselogs package. You'll need to create a > >>>>> py3-verboselogs port, because right now only py27-verboselogs > gets > >>>>> built. > >>>>> > >>>>> See the build failure at > >>>>> http://beefy10.nyi.freebsd.org/data/110i386-default/ > >>>> 446906/logs/py36-iocage-0.9.9.log > >>>>> >>>> 446906/logs/py36-iocage-0.9.9.log> > >>>>> > >>>>> # Adam > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Adam Weinberger > >>>>> adamw@adamw.org > >>>>> https://www.adamw.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> We can't add py3 ports because soon we gonna have FLAVORS! > >>>>> I can build iocage if I define the python version on my make.conf, > >>>>> however I can see the issue with poudriere. > >>>> > >>>> Since this port already uses py3-* (workaround) ports for dependencies > >>>> and there is no known ETA for VARIANTS support in ports, and the port > is > >>>> broken without py3-verboselogs, it should be created. > >>>> > >>>> Also, py-iocage should be resurrected, py-iocage was incorrectly > deleted > >>>> [1] instead of this one when it moved to Python 3.x only support. > py3-* > >>>> ports are only for (temporary) dependencies > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/445459 > >>> > >>> > >>> How I can pass the pre-commit hook that blocks any add of py3 slave > ports? > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >> > >> FLAVORS are in review and finished, poudriere is able to deal with them > -devel. > >> > >> The commit is pending exp-run, documentation etc. It takes time as it > is a major > >> change in the framework with huge impact. > >> > >> py3-* were a hack in the first place that should never have been done, > they > >> addition made it more complicated to work on FLAVORS, adding more and > by passing > >> the hook would just give even more delay for FLAVORS to be committed. > > > >> Best regards, > >> Bapt > >> > > > > Existing ports (particularly popular ports like iocage) that already > > rely on these dependencies should be allowed continue to work. The block > > relies on the assumption that new dependencies for existing and working > > ports will never be needed, which is the case here. > > > > The block on new py3-* ports (while noone likes them) was and is > > premature, and is even more so without an alternative, and it was > > heavy-handed. Developers were already trying hard to minimise their use. > > > > The block should be removed, and can be re-added when the official > > package builders are running with the poudriere "special feature" > > version that builds py3-* versions of py- ports automatically, or ports > > I'm not quite awake yet so pardon the terseness. I will start a > poudriere-devel exp-run now and then push it out to the builders > following that in the next 2 days. That will allow py3- dependencies to > build properly. It would allow existing py3- leaf ports to build as well. > > As for py3- leaf ports I would allow them but they have to follow strict > criteria: > - They must be named category/py3-foo > - They must be a *slave* port to a category/py-foo > - They must be supported on all python versions, not just 3.4+ or > something odd like that. > > The FLAVORS support in Poudriere is done. What is held up is an exp-run > that I'm tasked with and various bugs/documentation/more exp-runs. > Every new py3- port added that doesn't follow those rules means we have > to change Poudriere again. I think the criteria above is reasonable but > I know the last one is problematic. > > I've said on IRC before but not sure I have here, that py3- ports beyond > the fixed cases above, are only useful for generating a leaf package for > users to download. They can still build category/py-foo as PYTHON3 > today though. So there is an alternative but it is just not > package-friendly yet. > > About the block being premature, I will agree that what was lacking was > a communication about it to a wider community and an override allowed > with Portmgr review. At the time I wasn't quite sure what the criteria > for an override would even be. Now that I understand it more and have > Poudriere being a bit smarter than my first implementation, I will tweak > the block to allow a Portmgr override. > > > variants supports lands, whichever one comes first. If that's in 3 days, > > great, if its in 3 weeks or 2 months, our developers have been allowed > > to keep the status quo working. > > > > Users are currently being impacted where there is no alternative and > > they should not be asked to pay that price for our dislike of py3-* > ports. > > > > Best regards, > > Koobs > > > > > -- > Regards, > Bryan Drewery > > Thank you! I did open the review for the inclusion of py3-verboselogs. Best, -- -- Marcelo Araujo (__)araujo@FreeBSD.org \\\'',)http://www.FreeBSD.org \/ \ ^ Power To Server. .\. /_)