From nobody Thu Feb 12 03:59:47 2026 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fBM766xdvz6SBkn for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2026 04:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from heuristicsystems.com.au (hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au [203.41.22.115]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2560 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au", Issuer "Heuristic Systems Type 4 Host CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fBM7364byz3HBj for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2026 04:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=heuristicsystems.com.au header.s=hsa header.b=MabqN2js; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au designates 203.41.22.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au Received: from [10.0.5.4] (bigears.hs [10.0.5.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by heuristicsystems.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id 61C3xk3R018765 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:59:57 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=heuristicsystems.com.au; s=hsa; t=1770868797; x=1771473598; bh=ushNVUcgjXoZ6h14GMitHBrj7esReqKsfsHfZ8HOItQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; b=MabqN2jsppVzMrk0YYDk9Cfflxe9kYsW2NvfTwnz/Os4+v0FF2VVi15n2+qSZwLhk yT9/Y0DVpaL7yAHVfTo5KKuCflbWwDA4bLfUlrzsvKW/yESlGLZxvsE4SyjLDp9KPO 6L9X3+DZc2u/N3MIFo7MDQrjZiO3md/fpMTsMTredeqBK7W78JzA+ X-Authentication-Warning: b3.hs: Host bigears.hs [10.0.5.4] claimed to be [10.0.5.4] Message-ID: <2b052936-205f-4fa3-bb35-6a9410b995a6@heuristicsystems.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:59:47 +1100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Strange sockstat entries To: questions@freebsd.org References: <2133E787-9AF9-4999-83DC-83B4C0CABD32@lafn.org> <864insbxvk.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <30A38850-8D1B-4DF1-ADE9-9CFFD238EABF@lafn.org> Content-Language: en-GB From: Dewayne Geraghty In-Reply-To: <30A38850-8D1B-4DF1-ADE9-9CFFD238EABF@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[heuristicsystems.com.au:s=hsa]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:dkim]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[203.41.22.115:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fBM7364byz3HBj X-Spamd-Bar: --- As mysterious as ?? appears in sockstat output it may convey a problem that is occurring between the synchronisation of the two source lists. Wouldn't displaying sockets owned by the kernel also be helpful in diagnosing connection issues? It would be helpful to appear as PID/UID=0. An aside, when the kernel is involved in TLS negotiation, does the socket (currently) remain hidden until its handed to the process? Dewayne