From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 22:31:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EAA1065796; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 22:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A9F8FC13; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 22:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id AAA29759; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:31:48 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1S3b0t-000GGh-Rh; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:31:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4F514A5E.5040105@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:31:58 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F513B2D.6010809@FreeBSD.org> <4F5148A7.4080408@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5148A7.4080408@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:31:50 -0000 on 03/03/2012 00:24 Doug Barton said the following: > On 3/2/2012 1:27 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 02/03/2012 20:21 Doug Barton said the following: >>> ... and here is the crux of the problem. The vast majority of our >>> developers don't use FreeBSD as their regular workstation. >> >> Do you care to back this up with facts? > > You mean other than the very few hands that go up whenever we discuss > "who is actually using FreeBSD as their desktop?" If that doesn't work > for you, look around at the next developer's summit and take note of the > overwhelming preponderance of fruit logos. > > Just looking at the committers, of which we have over 300, only a couple > dozen at most have ever identified as actually using FreeBSD as a > desktop at my count. Taking the larger development community into > account I think the numbers are a little better, but not much. OK, I agree that anyone can have his own impressions and now I realize that you stated your own impression based on your observations. It's just that it sounded like you stated a fact. -- Andriy Gapon