From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 21:50:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658C106566B; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACD8FC14; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o27LlDU2064062; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:47:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:47:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20100307.144736.420173476735197890.imp@bsdimp.com> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20100307052949.GB70613@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <619814.37821.qm@web59102.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7d6fde3d1003060128r46403703k8cead7f37f80e83a@mail.gmail.com> <20100307052949.GB70613@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yanefbsd@gmail.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:50:38 -0000 In message: <20100307052949.GB70613@dragon.NUXI.org> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 01:28:24AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: : > FWIW, NetBSD's charter has been to run their OS on a number of : > architectures, not just a primary set of architectures; OpenBSD's : > charter differs -- if we all were NetBSD or OpenBSD, then we'd all be : > using the same thing. But we aren't and that's probably not going to : > change anytime soon [at least not without community backing and a : : We aren't? At this point it seems any architecture an be brought into : FreeBSD without regard to critical mass or ability to support it to the : standards of our past. I do believe FreeBSD's character does not include : chasing every embedded platform where there is energy and talent for the : initial port. FreeBSD's charter includes whatever people have the time and energy to support. This means a lot more embedded platforms that I ever thought possible because FreeBSD is getting easier to move to new embedded platforms. This is a good thing, as it brings more people and energy to the project and makes the base support for those platforms better. We don't have quite as many problems as the NetBSD/OpenBSD crowd in this respect. They tend to define a new MACHIINE more often then we have (or will). The need for sys/arch is less severe here than there because we don't have 40 different MACHINEs. Warner