From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 05:59:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0497370863 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BCdp40dd5z3RsT for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from capuchin.riseup.net (capuchin-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BCdp16qVZzFdpF for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1595570394; bh=ij2SmOGZ38vicduTJKu3LeEF6+K4hpZVyPNWWHtIV2g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ilOLcx0YXUOcJLcFxJ7p4wrulC3lEuA4D0XaiJo3Cxv8k/dwTf+2g68OfydnwrrN/ Qy9B7nXuBmP3ykI6kj3NxnNiUr2gLM2Rfuw4qeN5jOmjZatDdmy8Ctv+H94HgR2b5c FQKjcRyCw1jwFVgGHX9qxDZtvd3SfU8TZ7pnFqXE= X-Riseup-User-ID: 6237A2FD5DBC9A286EB3DBC6EC8035DE9A47F7CC2AC9939D5EA50D5AB1B87CF5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by capuchin.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BCdp127RHz8tgT for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 07:59:54 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200724075954.435fa2fc@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <838706788.121367025.1595568764100.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724032840.GA61047@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724043553.GA62650@admin.sibptus.ru> <838706788.121367025.1595568764100.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BCdp40dd5z3RsT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=ilOLcx0Y; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.88 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.023]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.25)[-1.251]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.002]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:59:56 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:32:44 -0600 (MDT), Dale Scott wrote: >The greatest technical advantage is that FreeBSD doesn't get in the >way as you accomplish the real work you want to do A single install, of what ever operating system you are using doesn't fulfil this for tasks in different domains. If you have very, very good luck, than multiple installs of just one operating system, with contrary priorities do the job. >(assuming the real work isn't polishing your desktop). On Linux and BSD you won't find a desktop environment at all on my machines, just a plain window manager. However, I've got a PC with FreeBSD and Linux available, an iPad with iOS and another iPad with iPadOS and I can't get all my work done with four operating systems and multiple installs, setups. Not to forget that I've got several Windows VMs and I'm running several wine prefixes, but they anyway don't complete this to get all I need to get done. For example, sometimes I'm still drawing on paper, since even something that simple as a real brush, good paper and watercolour isn't perfectly emulated. As long as computers are used for something non-mathematically, or not for data mining and analysis of data, the best tools are still forging hammers, scissors, brushes, analog circuits etc., the digital domain is much overrated. An advantage is that you can get a recording studio on less than 1 m=C2=B2 for less of the costs of a "real" recording studio, but only if you lower your sights and it's more or less the same for all domains.