From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 26 11:42:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C79137B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14109; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:32:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAATja4WA; Thu Oct 26 11:31:35 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02140; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:32:57 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200010261832.LAA02140@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: strange problem of PPPoE + NAT To: josh@zipperup.org (Josh Tiefenbach) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:32:57 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), receiver@RedDust.BlueSky.net.au (Idea Receiver), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001026094537.A75049@zipperup.org> from "Josh Tiefenbach" at Oct 26, 2000 09:45:37 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > BTW: I believe PPPoE in both Julian and Archie's cases specifically > > uses the netgraph PPP implementation, so it's an "all in the > > kernel" approach; the problem may be your use of user space code > > (i.e. killable code, since you can't kill it in the kernel, only > > unlink or unload it). > > Actually, I dont believe so. At least, ppp(8) merely uses the PPPoE netgraph > node, and does all PPP processing in user space, AFAICT. > > If, however, you're referring to mpd, then yes, that uses the netgraph PPP > implementation. Yes, mpd. Both Archie and Julian were running pure netgraph systems with different PPPoE cable modem provider configurations; I can't vouch for Archie's configuration, but I'm positive that Julian had it going, since he was using it at his apartment in SFO before he went back to OZ. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message