From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 08:02:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE71D1065670; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F78FC1B; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p3882ODL056202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p3882Olp056201; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA04640; Fri, 8 Apr 11 00:52:30 PDT Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:51:58 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk Message-Id: <4d9ebe9e.pIGnOm19kkj92XTf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <70252.1302171058@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <70252.1302171058@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: avg@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geom and removable media X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:02:25 -0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > ... it was a big mistake to use the same /dev entry > for both drive and media Well, maybe, in hindsight :) If the drive and the media had separate /dev entries it might never have been necessary to invent ioctl. > but waaay to late to fix it now. Yep. The drive and its removeable media have shared the same /dev entry since, at least, Bell Labs 6th Edition. (I _know_ this is true of dectapes, half-inch magtapes, 8" floppies, and "rk" cartridge disks; I think the "rp" disk drive may also have had removeable packs.)