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Date:      Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:35:12 -0600
From:      Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
To:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: HAL must die!
Message-ID:  <20110318003512.GA16444@guilt.hydra>
In-Reply-To: <F08A3C57F1281C13121853EC@Mac-Pro.local>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1103061251530.95312@abbf.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <il2qar$ka1$1@dough.gmane.org> <20110317144200.GA28942@takino.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1103171005430.2841@abbf.onfvpvfc.arg> <AANLkTikXKB1F_jh%2BNju_kr9v=w7F6VZL8PoqHUQKfgsL@mail.gmail.com> <20110317194852.GA15133@guilt.hydra> <20110317173557.131dddd5@scorpio> <20110317223637.GA15933@guilt.hydra> <20110317194858.61c4a03b@scorpio> <F08A3C57F1281C13121853EC@Mac-Pro.local>

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 08:27:32PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
>=20
> The additional knowledge that Linux supports them means the manufacturer=
=20
> isn't totally closed to supporting Open-source software, but tells us=20
> nothing beyond that.  Linux's support may be by way of a binary blob from=
=20
> Linksys, which doesn't help FreeBSD at all.  The cards would still need t=
o=20
> be reverse-engineered from scratch.

It doesn't even tell us that much.  It may be that someone decided to
spend an incredible amount of time and energy reverse-engineering the
hardware interface for the device and the driver software used on another
OS, then built a driver that has for some reason (probably licensing)
presented enough of a challenge to incorporation into a BSD Unix system
that building something similarly for FreeBSD has proved challenging (to
put it kindly).


>=20
> If the manufacturer releases some technical documents on how to talk to t=
he=20
> cards, that's a start at helping people write drivers.  Even if they do=
=20
> nothing else.
>=20
> But chewing out Chad because he makes the guess that two cards he knows=
=20
> nothing about are not supported because the manufacturer hasn't supplied=
=20
> the support to make them supported (which they probably have on at least=
=20
> Windows, if not Linux as well) is just blaming him for not being able to=
=20
> read your mind about hardware you have in hand.

Thanks.

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Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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