From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Mar 4 22:51:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EF7F3B414 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 22:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22d.google.com (mail-io0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76B7E74A35 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 22:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id e7so15997708ioj.1 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:51:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=W/b9Xracg6DlWx4MzL4CKCR0XGf2L+GdetUkds+YQIg=; b=ovd0RnHZkHbxC+zKqh5GzsrG0LD1vUufIv6v4DlsQSHrZZTmeva+U8TcNruHFHPKg/ y3piDlBxpnOWqW99oz/mZJha254SxrBcw15VbdLEPVUzlV3mNcSpwY/gv9xJDdB6LcST tfeNGIwXnkEm5WSimfaxdgbHmz6ZB290Vx3sI+7bwHn1yTztG0y5Oi20LU0FhiObYuLK DvSdu0nJSwqtj0dAmK3qTv284MCUYLhqG+mwYCOEXjU3E3aIKzXpjmFkW3Jcp3xVtTfz 03JNcZXv7NmQicVUK1zBmwFauULL8b6I3xwq7u03fquNGMHX121uqEtsjzY/PH/Wqrmt 81GQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=W/b9Xracg6DlWx4MzL4CKCR0XGf2L+GdetUkds+YQIg=; b=Rs1YTc25VumDvq9lZ/sX/KhqfOxDqI3XVolVn2e+2lPZIcGZLMgLsvVT/nPowZk168 NVj40jIENKLE8qTcTF3tvFPJvYVuvTzlYOvCqLnt0q+A3X03NdXIdLPKq/3FGUMkyezT lqadO0n+pbp4L1oJbmGHOW2aIvQdlfhahiiHJ/CSSI/xLnsBFSZXlg3/BgPTBxkPV977 mPa28pkdfZm1Gf1ERi5jZUO9k1zkAIWpEeORElxPvcS6szeXBQmn8vt/8Mingtm5e/ZH xKI+6g4z8U/ljSz2D+DW6tSfgFXfoCr58BYc0pkF6eNj68/Iv9MjLjmP/X9O/FcYZ2Xp mQ6A== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAUVZhnl7yKZVmrPtS+ugViHMzrukkYYFOPoaQd9DDjxPMzCBCT LFjVNz8P9pLmvy829CXLThMvvna8Sxe1zWJb2y5UsA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELs4x9hj1kLla/vR4ohA+RetoL7EKLU+NAVjIR5gclmyK8TZsShPqUi9mwaZAxW3po+UrMAAbhokT2tVUVQ1d7I= X-Received: by 10.107.175.77 with SMTP id y74mr15192605ioe.37.1520203878572; Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:51:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.203.196 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 14:51:17 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:18a2:a4f7:170:8dd9] In-Reply-To: References: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:51:17 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TqMSD9_Y2T_NH8zX8zDINBruE-Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: DEQNA support in stable ???! Errrr..... To: Pete French Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 22:51:20 -0000 On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Pete French wrote: > Just perusing the commits on a sunday evenong and I happened across > this one: https://freshbsd.org/commit/freebsd/r313276 > > "Use kldload -n when loading if_deqna > > This fixes if_deqna from being loaded by accident twice if it's > already loaded in the kernel." > > Unless my memory fails me DEQNA is the Dec Q-bus network adapter > for MicroVaxen isn't it ? The mini version of the DEUNA interface for > the full size Vax/11 machines. Now, I woudn't be surprised to see this > in netBSD, but kind of surprised to see it in FreeBSD! Anyone care to > enlighten me ? > FreeBSD has never had support for DEQNA. The if_deqna was added by me when I wrote devd as a ridiculous, never to clash with anything example. First, it is 'qe' in other BSDs. Second, FreeBSD will never run on VAXen. It was mostly a joke. Especially since there were never any DEQNAs made in PC Card form factor, where the example came from. Time passes, and someone who is tidying up notices it and fixes it and unironically, as far as I can tell, made the comment in the commit message... Warner