From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:35:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8624416A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345D313C46C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l854ZHSm049777; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:35:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:35:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:22 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > Hey, all... > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install > where it is > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... > Has anyone > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? Different strokes for different folks. There's nothing to be ashamed of for choosing a different OS because it fits your needs better than FreeBSD. However there is a lot to be ashamed of if your announcing this to the FreeBSD mailing list as a veiled attempt to "spur" the FreeBSD developers to make FreeBSD more ubuntu-like, or to trigger a flame war between ubuntu and FreeBSD supporters. Your post to me kind of seems rather passive-agressive, your praising and condemming FreeBSD at the same time, in the same sentences. I can't figure out if your trying to flame-bait or not, so I'll assume the best, that your not. Basically, dude, what you need to do is shit and get off the pot. Every OS under the sun including Winblows is going to suck up tinker-time. If you want a computer (or a happy wife I guess) then you need to accept that and quit whining that you don't have enough time. Here's a thought - unplug your TV set for a month and I'll bet you get a lot more tinker time. Anyway, you need to load ubuntu and load windows and load debian, and load red hat and so on and so on and make your own decision as to which meets your needs. None of us here can read minds and you haven't stated what your needs are - other than you want more time, which as I explained is a mirage - there isn't going to be more time freed up by replacing FreeBSD with something else, your just going to spend the same time with a different set of problems - so if you honest-to-god need more time, then give up something in your life that is consuming time that you gain less from than your computer. It could be anything from TV to your daily commute, to smoking, to drinking beer, you name it, whatever. Ted