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Date:      Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:11:06 -0500
From:      Bill Cohane <wcohane@banet.net>
To:        "Hartmann, O." <ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, <chad@DCFinc.com>
Subject:   Re: Overheated PIII in SMP system
Message-ID:  <5.0.2.1.2.20010329074136.026d62f8@mail.verizon.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0103291238430.3932-100000@klima.physik.uni-m ainz.de>
References:  <200103290112.SAA00301@freeway.dcfinc.com>

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At 05:46 03/29/01, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>I do not think FreeBSD's behaviour is the cause for "overheating" the CPU,
>and I do not care about what FreeBSD is doing while in an idle loop. 
>If the
>system is stable, it is all right.
>
>In my case, something seems to be very wrong. I monitored now for 
>about two
>days all parameters I can obtain by the "HEALTHD" daemon and I I did 
>several
>changes, e.g. swapping both CPUs. Now the system runs "stable" (but 
>how long?).
>I swapped the CPUs again and I realized, that my first observation, that
>heat follows one specific CPU, was an err. Heat is located in SLOT 1 for
>CPU #0. Obviously is the othe CPU not that sensitive to heat than the 
>other one,
>but a measuremnt of 52 degrees Celsius on the heat sink is really to much!
>
>"Healthd" gives a lot of warnings to me due the fact that SLOT 1 delivers
>a core voltage of 2.06 to 2.08 and not 2.05 as the other, second slot. I
>think this is like an evidence to accuse the mainboard.
>
>This will getting changed today (ASUS P2B-D against ASUS CUV4X-D with two
>new boxed 733B-Coppermines). Coppermines seems to be much "cooler" than
>old KATMAI - and the risk of a dying system due old hardware is to 
>high ...


Hello

I'm rather curious how you are measuring the temperatures of the
two processors. I was under the impression that the P2B-D (indeed
the whole P2B series) was designed before the Pentium III came out
and has no on board means of detecting the temperatures of the CPUs.

Are you using special thermal probes attached to the processor
cartridges (or heat sinks) and plugged into the motherboard? My point
is that if you aren't using the add on temperature probes, how are you
measuring the temperatures? (I am not aware of a way to monitor the
thermal diode that's inside the PIII without modification to the
motherboard socket or adaptor card.)

Also, the Asus P2B-D (prior to motherboard revision 1.06, possibly
even prior to late shipments of the 1.06...as marked by the characters
"D03" showing on a white bar code label on the end ISA slot) have
a hardware bug that (at least in MS Win2K) keeps one processor bus
at 50% to 80% at all times. (Something about thousands of spurious
interrupts being detected each second.) I have three of these boards
running dual PIII-800...but they are all running Windows. (I have to
use the MS software for my math research. Sorry about that.)

All my boards show slight voltage fluctuations (one or two hundredths
of a volt) and I think it's normal. (Note that I'm using PCP&C 400 or
450 Watt power supplies...which should provide good power to start out
with.)

Regards,
Bill Cohane


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