From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 27 9:34:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from bigphred.greycat.com (bigphred.greycat.com [207.173.133.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA1A37B568 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:34:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dann@bigphred.greycat.com) Received: (from dann@localhost) by bigphred.greycat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03468 for hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:34:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dann) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:34:40 -0800 From: Dann Lunsford To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is 'dip' ... -- Any dip users out there? Message-ID: <20000227093440.A3364@greycat.com> References: <38B43C5A.CE263F66@acm.org> <951384983.334873@caiman.elsevier.nl> <38B72C51.4A9023ED@acm.org> <38b7c901$0$18570@ams2eusosrv31.ams.ops.eu.uu.net> <200002270049.BAA39434@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200002270049.BAA39434@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from j@uriah.heep.sax.de on Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 01:49:14AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 01:49:14AM +0100, J Wunsch wrote: > Incidentally, i recently considered removing the entire bsddip port. > (I'm the maintainer of it.) There have never been any updates to the > original bsddip (AFAICT), ppp(8) is actively and nicely maintained by > Brian Somers, and nobody's going to use SLIP anymore anyway (and those > couple of you out there who do wouldn't use dip for it either, would > you? :-). > > So are there really any remaining bsddip users? Otherwise i'll kill > the port some day. Well, I'm still using it. For my setup, dip/CSLIP has a significant performance advantage over PPP (about 5-10%, last time I looked), apparently due to the lack of overhead. And dip makes the setup fairly easy/painless; I'd really dislike having to use the "standard" SLIP. PPP is nice when the setup is dynamic, and if you're using protocols other than IP. In that case, I can see using it. My setup has neither of those characteristics, so, for me, dip/CSLIP is better. I suspect there's a lot of people in the same boat, and will continue to be. So, please don't kill the port. You are (obviously!) not compelled to do anything with it, but leave it around for the people who will need it. Just my $0.02. -- Dann Lunsford The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil dann@greycat.com is that men of good will do nothing. -- Cicero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message