From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 5 8:56:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AB737B401; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3646243E4A; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA5Gu5HX007061; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:56:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gA5Gu5Zu007060; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:56:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:56:05 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: Fred Clift , "alpha@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 (fwd) Message-ID: <20021105175605.A7042@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021105091514.L69586-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:53:02AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:53:02AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 05-Nov-2002 Fred Clift wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> > >> On 05-Nov-2002 Thyer, Matthew wrote: > >> > I'd hope we can split the Alpha boot floppies even further to get around these kind of > >> > problems. > >> > > >> > What is required at minimum is the following: > >> > >> This is what we do already. Even i386 now uses 3 floppies to install. The problem is > >> that a really, really stripped down 5.0 kernel still doesn't fit onto kern.flp with the > >> loader. > > > > Being new to the alpha architecture, my biggest problem with all this is > > that I dont know enough to even have vague ideas of _why_ the i386 bare > > kernel is so much smaller than the alpha bare kernel. > > > > Can anyone explain this? I'm really just curious :). > > For one thing, 64-bit binaries are larger than 32-bit binaries. > Another difference on 5.0 is that Alpha supports SMP out of the > box where as i386 requires a custom kernel for SMP support. It is still slim, compared to genvmunix on Tru64 ;-) (> 10MB when I last looked) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message