From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 31 12:15:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEF5106566B; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C25E8FC12; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79A22B91E; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:50 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p17; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <503FF0EE.2020605@FreeBSD.org> <20120831095910.GQ64447@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20120831095910.GQ64447@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201208310810.50725.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Doug Barton , freebsd-ports , Chris Rees , Tijl Coosemans Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:15:10 -0000 On Friday, August 31, 2012 5:59:10 am Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 01:02:06PM -1000, Doug Barton wrote: > > On 08/30/2012 07:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:10:24 pm Chris Rees wrote: > > >> On 30 Aug 2012 18:03, "John Baldwin" wrote: > > >>> > > > > I agree with John on all counts here. Further, the idea of a > > self-installing package, at least for the pkg stuff itself, addresses > > the issue that someone else brought up about how to handle installation > > of pkg by the installer for a new system. > > I like the idea of also providing a self-installing package, and it seems really > easy to do, so I'll try to see what I can do in this area I'll wrote a PoC in 5 > minutes which looks pretty good, this could also be a very simple and easy way > to integrate into bsdinstaller. > > I'll do work in that direction. > > Still it doesn't solve the problem of boostrapping pkgng in a fresh new box, > because the user may not know where to download the pkg-setup.sh. I do think that is something bsdinstall should be able to handle, and I would certainly want bsdinstall to include a dialog that says "do you want to install the package manager?" -- John Baldwin