From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 07:48:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD941065674 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235028FC27 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 23412 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2008 02:48:41 -0500 Received: from 203-166-248-146.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (203.166.248.146) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Jul 2008 02:48:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:48:36 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080715174836.60d5802e@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <20080715072456.T1638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <539c60b90807142030u506394e7jdcdedd965ec16706@mail.gmail.com> <20080715072456.T1638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT-ish: fedora->crash->single user fsck; FreeBSD->crash->smooth recovery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:48:42 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:36:17 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Is ext2/3 really that bad? > > > i don't know ext3, it in theory does journalling, are you using ext3 or > ext2? > > hint: ext3 is actually ext2 with extra file created, there is no need to > convert, just run fsck_ext3 to convert to ext3, and delete that file to > convert to ext2. ( my apologies for pursuing the OT....) I can't speak for Fedora, i haven't bothered using it. I can tell you , though, that ext3's journal is prey to memory hungry processes (like VMWare server) - user level app uses lots of memory, the fs doesn't have enough to cache/journal and you hit the ground very fast and very hard. There are some sysctl you can use to postpone this (at the expense of usable memory). Other than that, i can't say ext3 is that bad. But yeah, I still haven't found enough reasons to move back to Linux from FBSD. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome If you were supposed to understand it, we wouldn't call it 'code'. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned.