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Date:      Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:18:53 +0300
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        Lorenzo Salvadore <phascolarctos@protonmail.ch>
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Subject:   Re: Need opinion on license type
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 12:35 PM Lorenzo Salvadore <
phascolarctos@protonmail.ch> wrote:

> > IMO at first sight it seems NONE since it don't match Predefined License
> > List
> >
> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#licenses-license-list
>
> A non predefined License is not NONE, it's a license that you have to
> specify
> manually, see for example
>
> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#licenses-license_perms-ex1
>
> You can find another example in math/maxima, where I had to add a
> MAXIMAEXTRACLAUSE
> license.
>
> If you put NONE, then no permission will be specified, although the
> license seems to give
> some. For example I think dist-mirror is fine.
>
> But please keep in mind that I am not a lawyer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lorenzo Salvadore
>
>


For my personal needs I am maintaining a long list of
software repositories .

When there is not any license information in a repository ,
I am using
( Undefined )
phrase .

But in a USA Government related Github repository , when a
file in a repository does not have a license , they are using
Unknown
even if there are plenty of files with license information .

For such cases , I am using , for example ,
( BSD , see Parts )

When I am not able to identify a license with its name , but its
license is permissive with some restrictions , I am using
( Restricted )

phrase ( For me this is  UnUsable ... ) but some features may be
studied .

I am using
( Restricted )
phrase with a Permissive license such as BSD , ISC , or MIT ,
but it has additional requirements which I may not fulfill .

If the license is weak or strong copyleft I am not recording it .

In FreeBSD documents , If FreeBSD Project managers adopt such
a scheme for exceptional licensed sources , their definitions may be used .

I looked at the SPDX license list to search for an entry for such licenses ,
it seems that there is not any entry for unidentifiable licenses , or
I did not understand their system correctly .


With my best wishes .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 17, 2022=
 at 12:35 PM Lorenzo Salvadore &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phascolarctos@protonma=
il.ch">phascolarctos@protonmail.ch</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">&gt; IMO at first sight it seems NONE sin=
ce it don&#39;t match Predefined License<br>
&gt; List<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#li=
censes-license-list" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.free=
bsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#licenses-license-list</a><br>
<br>
A non predefined License is not NONE, it&#39;s a license that you have to s=
pecify<br>
manually, see for example<br>
<a href=3D"https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#license=
s-license_perms-ex1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.free=
bsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#licenses-license_perms-ex1</a><br>
<br>
You can find another example in math/maxima, where I had to add a MAXIMAEXT=
RACLAUSE<br>
license.<br>
<br>
If you put NONE, then no permission will be specified, although the license=
 seems to give<br>
some. For example I think dist-mirror is fine.<br>
<br>
But please keep in mind that I am not a lawyer.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Lorenzo Salvadore<br>
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le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default=
">For my personal needs I am maintaining a long list of <br></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"=
>software repositories .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family=
:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">When there is n=
ot any license information in a repository , <br></div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I am using=
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ss=3D"gmail_default">( Undefined )</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">phrase .</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" clas=
s=3D"gmail_default">But in a USA Government related Github repository , whe=
n a</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=
=3D"gmail_default">file in a repository does not have a license , they are =
using <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large=
" class=3D"gmail_default">Unknown <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahom=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">even if there are ple=
nty of files with license information .</div><div style=3D"font-family:taho=
ma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
For such cases , I am using , for example ,</div><div style=3D"font-family:=
tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">( BSD , see Part=
s )</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=
=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">When I am not able to identify a lic=
ense with its name , but its</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">license is permissive with some=
 restrictions , I am using</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif=
;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">( Restricted )<br></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default">phrase ( For me this is=C2=A0 UnUsable ... ) but some =
features may be <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-=
size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">studied .</div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div=
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ault">I am using<br>( Restricted )<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahom=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">phrase with a Permiss=
ive license such as BSD , ISC , or MIT ,</div><div style=3D"font-family:tah=
oma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">but it has addition=
al requirements which I may not fulfill .</div><div style=3D"font-family:ta=
homa,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default=
">If the license is weak or strong copyleft I am not recording it .</div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_d=
efault"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge" class=3D"gmail_default">In FreeBSD documents , If FreeBSD Project manag=
ers adopt such</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge" class=3D"gmail_default">a scheme for exceptional licensed sources , t=
heir definitions may be used .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-=
family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I looked =
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=3D"gmail_default">I did not understand their system correctly .</div><div =
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rif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">With my best wishes .</div><di=
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fault"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-=
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