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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <p05210606bb7559e42d48@[128.113.24.47]>, Garance A Drosihn writes:
> 
> >I suspect
> >that Warner is right, and we could get ourselves into a mess
> >if we jump into some easy-looking solution.
> 
> We can of couse, just as easy be paralyzed be the lack of the grand
> architectural plan in the sky and never get anywhere at all. 

This was actually a concern I expressed in that thread: we've gone
completely off the rails several times before in an attempt to get a Grand
Architecture for FreeBSD Decomposition.  A few useful knobs sometimes goes
a long way, and is far more practical.  I think we should block the
introduction of useful knobs (especially install-knobs vs. build-knobs) on
waiting for xmlBSD. :-)

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
robert@fledge.watson.org      Network Associates Laboratories