From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 14:42:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63DA106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd4michelle@tamay-dogan.net) Received: from webmail.codefoundry.com (webmail.codefoundry.com [62.231.42.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7807A8FC69 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.private.tamay-dogan.net ([::ffff:82.113.106.159]) (AUTH: CRAM-SHA256 konzack.michelle.tamay-catchall@codefoundry.com) by webmail.codefoundry.com with esmtp; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:49:10 +0100 id 002B0628.4A8D6267.00003B37 Received: from michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net [::ffff:192.168.0.91]) by mail.private.tamay-dogan.net with esmtp; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:41:47 +0200 id 0002BF6A.4A8D60AB.00003650 Received: by michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:35:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:35:54 +0200 From: Michelle Konzack To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090820143554.GB28649@tamay-dogan.net> References: <002a01ca2178$3745bdb0$1e010a0a@in72.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <002a01ca2178$3745bdb0$1e010a0a@in72.ru> X-Message-Flag: Improper configuration of Outlook is a breeding ground for viruses. Please take care your Client is configured correctly. Greetings Michelle. X-Disclaimer-DE: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. Organization: Tamay Dogan Network X-Operating-System: Linux michelle1 2.6.26-1-686 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: PPPoE server (high traffic in WDM network) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:09 -0000 Am 2009-08-20 15:25:50, schrieb Дмитрий Замураев: > Hello, Michelle > >> The main problem with the bandwidth is, that even the VOD/IPTV and VoIP >> traffic goes throug the PPPoE server which is very bad. > I don't think so, yes it is bad and not very bad. It depends on BRAS > hardware. Hmmm... >> I do not want to count the traffic to a specific /25 which hold the >> storage servers,If you want this, you may use the MPD-specific RADIUS > attributes described in: > http://mpd.sourceforge.net/doc5/mpd30.html#30 > see last paragraph. I have tried this but it does not work. >> mean, the VOD/IPTV and VoIP traffic must bypass the >> PPPoE server. > If VOD/IPTV is uses multicast - yes else you must set the pipe for this > kind of traffic Ehm, noy, VOD is unicast, because the user can view videos whenever she/he want. Currently we do not know whether we support TV channels over IPTV. >> My idea is/was, to put the PPPoE server diretly byside the FTTH DSLAM's, >> which mean, each 96port DSLAM has an upstrem of 1 GE and even if I put >> 10 of them in a 42RU, it would normaly not fill the 10 GE ports of a >> professionel Server. And of corse, I can put always two or three >> together parallel. > Yes, it is good idea. I will see... It seems, that even 96 FTTH ports with 100 MBit each do not hit the limit of a 1GE upstream, so the now I could test the "Sun Fire X4100M2" becaus it has four 1GE ports, which mean, I can use one as upstream and then connect the three others to up to three FTTH DSLAMS... Transforming a 1400 US$ Server into a pppoe server/router which has not more then 2 GByte of memory and the smallest CPU available. This could work. >> The problem is only, that I can not install 10 (or 20 redunant) 1U Sun >> Fire X4100M2, even if I can get up to 60% rebat of the listprice. >> I have not the place to put 20 additiona servers into, nor I like the >> power consumation ~70 Watt with the smalles CPU and only 4 GByte of RAM. > I have't Sun servers and i can't compare Sun with i386 usage with this task > I use i386 servers. See below. The X4100M2 is a Opteron > the SMP with many NIC helps, and so much I know, the smallest Quad-Core CPU with 4 threads/core could be enough > I use usb flash drive in read-write mode as full replace of hard drive I do not know whether the X4100 can boot from USB-Flash, but it seems, a SATA/CF adaptor is working or even a very cheap SATA HDD. The X4100 is not bound to SAS drives. > for the driver see: people. yandex . ru/~wawa OK > 2. FreeBSD 7.2, mpd5.3 + ng_car + ng_bpf (rate-limiting > on this machine - the perfomance of traffic processing is very good, > because ng_car & ng_bpf is in kernel space, but have trouble > described in PR kern/137881, i think on FBSD 7.0 it may be works fine, > but no test are made, i'm busy) > I think the best choise today is #2 I will give it a try Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4michelle@jabber.ccc.de 67100 Strabourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ #328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193