From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 21:56:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3039016A4CE for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A8943D46 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAPLxU3N070267; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:59:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41A6552B.60704@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:56:59 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <41A58384.30603@yahoo.com> <20041125070540.GA44058@freebie.xs4all.nl> <41A5880D.4030405@yahoo.com> <41A5895D.5030000@freebsd.org> <41A6527F.1030201@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41A6527F.1030201@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Rob cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 on Intel 386 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:56:28 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > >> Rob wrote: >> >>>>> 1.2 Hardware Requirements >>>>> FreeBSD for the i386 requires a 486 or better processor to install >>>>> and run (although FreeBSD can run on 386 processors with a custom >>>>> kernel).... > > > Btw: The "at least 8 megs of RAM to install and 7 megs to run" needs > some rather big annotations to be true and should probably be revised. > The last release you could install from a CD-ROM with plain sysinstall > on 8 megs of RAM was FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE. > Yeah, the mfsroot requirement here along with the growing kernel size really makes it hard for the installer to work in even 16MB of RAM. I don't see this abating anytime soon unless we go to a bare kernel + modules approach and ditch /stand from the mfsroot (and thereby ditch floppies). I'm just saying this matter of fact, not trying to stir a debate. Please enjoy your turkey dinner instead today and refrain from flaming me over floppies vs. RAM =-) Scott