From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 12:18:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D7E16A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:18:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D7643D2F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:18:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5385069A71; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:17:57 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Bruce Hunter Message-Id: <20040608081757.5a168419.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1086675696.1640.3.camel@solid.solisixoffice.com> References: <1086674510.1106.4.camel@solid.solisixoffice.com> <1086674997.55205.11.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> <1086675696.1640.3.camel@solid.solisixoffice.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improper shutdown of system / Fragmentation Problems / Boot logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:18:17 -0000 [It's not generally good policy to ask multiple questions in one email. As crazy as it sounds, you're better off sending a seperate email for each question. See http://www.lemis.com/questions.html] Bruce Hunter wrote: > This is off topic, I was wondering if there is a pretty little gui that > will run when booting. Kinda like windows, lindows, and even Redhat > Fedora has one; which can be switched back and forth. Basically, so I > don't have to see the text scrolling down and just see a loader with %. > Maybe in the ports collection? If not I might have write one. :oP See the various documents on boot splash screens. "man splash" on your FreeBSD system is the best reference I know of, although a google search is likely to turn up more. I don't know of anything more advanced than that. You may have to write it ;) > Oh, and thanks for your comments/answers. One last question thought? How > do I get rid of that fragmentation crap? Just for shits and giggles.. > ;o) Just keep using your system. UFS manages fragmentation during normal usage. However, fragmentation is not what you think it is. If you tried to evaluate a UFS file system compared to Windows idea of fragmentation, it would look fragmented as hell, but UFS does this in a controlled manner that is intended to maintain high-performance, and "correcting" it would actually be counter- productive. UFS fragmentation is the act of breaking down storage units into smaller ones to accomodate files of uneven sizes, and I don't know of any way to prevent this other than deleting such files. See /usr/share/doc/papers/diskperf.ascii.gz for a more technical explanation of how things work. > > Bruce > > On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 02:09, Murray Taylor wrote: > > Fragmentation is a non-event in 99.999% of cases. It is nothing like > > micro$lop fragments and (before you ask, no there is no defrag tool, > > 'cos it is not required) > > > > The shutdown question -- well you should not shutdown incorrectly ;-) > > - see man shutdown and friends > > (BTW - letting the FreeBSD box run and run and run wont hurt anything. > > I'm currently up to 72 days uptime since I last updated the system, and > > we had a machine that got to 698 days here at work .. we had to move > > buildings and thus shut it down..) > > > > for the last question the file you want is > > > > /var/run/dmesg.boot > > > > which is the boot output from the most recent boot. > > > > You can also see it by issuing the command > > dmesg > > but the display that this one shows can get over written as the system > > does other log messages. > > > > Hope this helps > > mjt > > > > > > On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 16:01, Bruce Hunter wrote: > > > I am kinda new to FBSD, still kinda learning stuff. Anyway, when my > > > system boots i see all kinda fragmentation information. How do I correct > > > this? Any good reading material? Also, what should I do when I shutdown > > > my system incorrectly and boot up again? Last questions! I promise. Is > > > there a file that shows the data printed to screen durning boot? > > > Probably, a log file. > > > > > > Thanks guys, > > > Bruce > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > > > This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. > > > ************************************************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com