From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jan 5 13: 0:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91D837B401 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (ny2.fastmail.fm [66.111.4.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377843EB2 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brettglass@ml1.net) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) by fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E17FF9D3; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.fastmail.fm) by fastmail.fm with SMTP; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:00:46 -0500 Received: by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id D06DF1A26C; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:00:46 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.71; T1.001; A1.51; B2.12; Q2.03) From: "Brett Glass" To: "Brett Glass" Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:00:46 -0800 X-Epoch: 1041800446 X-Sasl-enc: uF7QR94MNDiClWjfRz/9jw Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , "Mike Jeays" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, "Terry Lambert" Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030105134145.02935820@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030105134145.02935820@localhost> Message-Id: <20030105210046.D06DF1A26C@www.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:49:01 -0700, "Brett Glass" said: > It is a big deal -- in time, money, and especially documentation of > the clean room process. Rome wasn't build in day. Do you remember how the first Compaq PC was build? They did a clean room implementation of the (by then) proprietary IBM PC BIOS. I wonder if, instead of constantly bash GPL alternatives to proprietary products, have you ever contacted the author(s) and/or implemented a BSDL version yourself. I've recently done that, in case you're going to ask: http://www.brettglass.com/downloads/bgcc-0.0.tar.gz > Even though NFS implements "security" via the strict and rigorous > process of checking IP addresses (and we all know that IP addresses > can NEVER be spoofed). ;-) IPsec'd NFS is okay in most cases. Even plain NFS is far better than CIFS. About lack of nfs clients for MS operating systems, have you considered writing one? Or are you just waiting for someone else to do it? Intergraph used to sell a quite okay version, which could be easily fed into IDAPro and reverse engineered in 2-3 weeks. > (for a few of them) MacOS. (Some of the MacOS users are balking > at the MacOS X GUI, though, and are getting Dell machines running > Windows XP. Out of the frying pan....) Install a newbie Linux distro for them, then. > If SAMBA were truly free, there'd be no need to do so. You can probably use e-mail to share files, no big deal. --Brett Glass -- Brett Glass brettglass@ml1.net -- http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message