From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 16 17:44:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6FE37B401 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FA443E77 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: from ene.asda.gr (lefty.ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.162]) by ene.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8673FBF for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:44:47 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DD6F4A0.124A3322@ene.asda.gr> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:45:04 +0200 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis Organization: ASDA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reading helps for sure, I can't argue with that. However, a name such as -to-become-stable would help most to realize what really is with the first look). Regards, Lefteris Tsintjelis Peter Hoskin wrote: > > Because this is development of what will become stable. Always helps to > read the documentation. > > Regards, > Peter Hoskin > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:19:28 +0200 > > From: Lefteris Tsintjelis > > To: Peter Hoskin > > Cc: Marc G. Fournier , Hununu , > > freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? > > > > It sure is misleading. Why is it called -stable then? You would expect > > to stand up to its name. > > > > Regards, > > Lefteris Tsintjelis > > > > Peter Hoskin wrote: > > > > > > STABLE is still a development branch. The name is misleading. If I were > > > you, I'd install & run release. > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Hununu wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 16 Nov 2002 at 13:47, Geoffrey C. Speicher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I expecting too much from FreeBSD-STABLE? Would I fair better if I > > > > > > > moved down into RELENG_4_7 and avoided -STABLE altogether? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you're expecting too much from -stable. -stable is kind of a > > > > > > misnomer; read the Handbook section 21.2.2.1 ("What Is FreeBSD-STABLE?") > > > > > > for more. Your conclusion above is addressed there (spoiler: don't use > > > > > > -stable in production unless your test environment convinces you that it > > > > > > will work). > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. I have some boxes that run -stable. Though, I cvsup and install > > > > > world & kernel on one box I can afford to fail. If it works ok, then I > > > > > slowly move it to others.. -STABLE is not meant to be rock solid, and > > > > > running it on production servers can be time-consuming for various > > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > The thing is, I run -STABLE on about a dozen desktops and servers at my > > > > day job, and have never had a problem ... but they don't carry near as > > > > much load as venus/jupiter do ... > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message