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Subject: Re: Reminder: non-mpsafetty drivers to be connected on Sunday 
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In message <20080801132624.GG1359@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>, Peter Jeremy writes
:

>OTOH, a piece of middle-ware that doesn't work with the underlying
>hardware drivers makes that hardware useless.  MPSAFE is probably more
>important than any particular non-console driver but Ed is talking
>about disconnecting almost every non-console TTY driver.

And I'm right behind him.

If digi(4) is important, somebody with hardware will fix it, if it
isn't important it will not be fixed, and good riddance.

I think you are being unreasonable, and I'll point you at an old
post I made, rather than rehash the arguments again:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1863154+0+archive/2002/freebsd-current/20021006.freebsd-current

Poul-Henning

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