From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 26 12:37:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E7037B417 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from schulte-laptop.nospam.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E1E2440D; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:37:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011226142742.03c2fde0@pop3s.schulte.org> X-Sender: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:37:16 -0600 To: "Mike Meyer" , Christopher Schulte From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails on behalf of config version Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Brian Behlendorf , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15402.12857.406331.699967@guru.mired.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011226135014.03758008@pop3s.schulte.org> <20011226105454.Y92442-100000@localhost> <20011225153309.C136@gohan.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011226135014.03758008@pop3s.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:25 PM 12/26/2001 -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: >Given a reasonable processor, it's not "many hours", it's more like 15 >minutes even with "best practice" methods. That's because you can do >the timeconsuming parts of the process with the machine still in >service. Not always practical. If my production server allows interactive login of non-trusted users, (shell server for example) I cannot allow these users to have access while building of world happens. I must 1) kill user processes 2) disable remote user login 3) update source 4) build 5) install (install kernel && boot single-user && install world) 6) reboot 7) allow access again Even on fast CPU and disk this can take hours. This is a relatively rare (IMHO) circumstance and was included for completeness of the thread. Bottom line is still that kernel and world should be in sync. :) > -- >Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. --c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message