From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 23:17:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBCE16A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C765C43D39 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 55531 invoked by uid 110); 16 Mar 2004 07:17:07 -0000 Received: from ool-18baaf5c.dyn.optonline.net (HELO win2kpc1) (24.186.175.92) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2004 07:17:07 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Lanny Baron" Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:17:44 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2661) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;4) In-Reply-To: <4056A871.80302@FreeBSDsystems.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20040316071708.C765C43D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Artem Koutchine cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:17:09 -0000 Sounds like a cool feature. What detects/monitors the CPUs to spot any problems and mark them offline at the next reboot? is this a feature of FreeBSD or motherboards you use? I have never heard of anything like this on Intel based servers, before. PS: then again, I never had a CPU fail after it passed DOA, maybe I haven't gone through enough CPUs, yet. -Simon On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:10:41 -0500, Lanny Baron wrote: >With our Servers (dual and quad), if a CPU becomes defective and causes >a crash, when the Server reboots, it will mark the CPU off-line and use >the other CPU. That makes it redundant. And that is, for anyone >considering their Server to be of prime importance, a hell of lot better >than waiting for a replacement of the same cpu with the same stepping. > >Lanny > >Simon wrote: > >> You keep comparing old dual CPUs to a new 2x faster single CPU >> server. Why don't you compare the latest dual CPU server to the >> latest single CPU server, and then tell us which one you think would >> be faster :-) Anyway, dual 500mhz server would be very close to single >> 1000Mhz CPU server, as long as everything else is the same. The >> idea is to take advantage of multiple CPUs using latest components, >> not just any 2 CPUs, but you keep missing this important point. >> >> PS: dual Xeon 3Ghz would be faster than single Xeon 3Ghz CPU >> and there is currently no Xeon 6Ghz CPU, so your only option is >> to have more than one CPU to make the server faster, thus SMP. >> Of course when Xeon (or whatever they name it) 6Ghz comes out, >> your dual Xeon 3Ghz server would be quite outdated and by then >> you could have dual 6Ghz server. >> >> -Simon >> >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:36:17 +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote: >> >> >>>>>of processes with short run periods you will get overal >>>>>perfomance somewhere near 5000Mhz. However, when i >>>>>subsituted two 500Mhz CPUs with 1500Mhz one (even with >>>>>less 2nd level cache) on a heavy loaded web server i notice >>>>>that sites started to load faster. So, it seems as >>>>>one 3X Mhz CPU is faster that two X MHz CPUs, at least >>>>>for web server with sql base and many perl scripts. >>>>> >>>> >>>>This is true as long there is no load until the CPU cache comes >>>>into the game. It also depends on how the CPUs are connected to >>>>the main memory. >>> >>> >>>Hm.. >>>Let me make up a case. >>>Two boxes: >>>1) Dual CPU X Mhz with Y KB of cache >>>2) Sinnge CPU with 2X Mhz and 2Y KB of cache >>> >>>Which one is faster under FreeBSD? I think the >>>second one, because SMP overhead is gone. >>> >>>Artem >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >Lanny Baron >Proud to be 100% FreeBSD >http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM >Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > >